> Op 4 mrt. 2015, om 08:48 heeft Mikael Abrahamsson <swm...@swm.pp.se> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2015, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
> 
>>> I still think there needs to be quite a lot of work done on APIs and best
>>> common practices in order for applications to do the right thing so this
>>> kind of renumbering event works. Most likely it's going to require a FOSS
>>> library that will act as a middle layer between the application and the
>>> network
>> 
>> What are the applications that you think would benefit from that?
>> UDP-based applications, mind you, since MP-TCP works marvelously for TCP.
> 
> EVERYTHING that is not using TCP. Which is a lot. I don't want sessions that 
> last more than a few seconds to rely on the address, anywhere.
> 
>> I think getting thoroughly acquainted with previous art is necessary. I'm 
>> sure there are other UDP-based applications than just Mosh and µTP-based 
>> BitTorrent that can deal with changing addresses, and we don't want to build 
>> something that's either too general, not general enough, or even both at the 
>> same time.
> 
> That's why I said 5-10 man-year effort.
> 
> I don't know on what level to solve this best. Since it requires some kind of 
> authentication, perhaps it should be done by in a similar fashion to IPSEC 
> but be done on a per-session basis, not per-IP.
> 
> Also, TCP is hindered by often being included in the operating system and not 
> under the application developer control at all. This is fine for most 
> applications, but the larger ones with special needs might want to do 
> something differently. Looking at for example QUIC, they went down the UDP 
> route to fix this problem.
> 
> So what I envision is a standardised protocol that could be implemented as a 
> library on the host, be cross-plattform, probably run over UDP (at least 
> short term), and combine some of the functionality of IPSEC and SHIM6 to 
> enable authentication, encryption and address independence.

OpenVPN with float comes nearby.
I'm testing pre-2.4 with fix for float in P2MP mode. Works fine.

However, I do not recommend to use OpenVPN for each and every connection on 
Internet.

Teco


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