Thanks Klaus, In all of my writing I did forget to mention that my horn is an Alexander.
Milton Milton Kicklighter 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic Retired ________________________________ From: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre <[email protected]> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 12:15:45 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Old Horn I was raised in Germany post-WWII even if I am as Danish as it comes. My father found a history textbook from the nazi era, which I remember reading as a teen. The nazis maintained the swastika being an original old German symbol, which is not true. I am sure swastika samples may be found from several periods of German history, yet I doubt they ever were widespread until the Nazi era starting slowly after WWI. The nazis ruled Germany from 1933 through their surrender in early May 1945. Before their taking over government I doubt any company would use the swastika symbol. Hans hints that practice not starting until 1934. Very much until Stalingrad the nazis believed they would win the war. I have seen a 1941 Knopf single F horn belonging to a now deceased Danish amateur player. I. K. Gottfried of Copenhagen stopped producing brass instruments in 1943, because they no longer could get valve blocks from Markneukirchen. This goes to say that Germany continued production not essential to warfare much longer than at least I would have expected. Boosey & Hawkes very soon were commandeered to make fuel supply systems for Spitfires and other fighter planes very soon after the outbreak of WWII. Conn made compasses rather than musical instruments. On a tangent: A lot of German brass makers lived in the Sudeten mountain region in Czechoslovakia along the border to Saxony. After the Munich agreement in 1938 the Sudeten area was annexed by Germany. I have seen photos of instruments engraved Sudetengau (the name of the German administrative region). This for sure dates these instruments after the annexation and before the end of the war. Klaus --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Old Horn > To: "The Horn List" <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 5:29 PM > Thanks Klaus, > > In what time period would the swastika on the horn have > been approprate? > > My thoughts were that since the symbol was so disguised as > to be almost > imposable to see, that it might have been forbidden. > > I am always interested in the historical possibilities. > > Thanks. > > Milton > Milton Kicklighter > 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic > Retired > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre <[email protected]> > To: The Horn List <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 11:17:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Old Horn > > > > --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > I do > > know that I have owned > > the horn for forty plus years and the gentleman that > I > > bought it from had owned > > the horn for more than forty plus years. > > Two consecutive ownerships of each forty years plus would > date the horn to > pre-1930. A swastika would not likely have been part of the > engraving on a horn > made prior to 1933. > > Klaus > > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at >https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com >m > > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at >https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/yorkmasterbbb%40yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
