Hello Klaus, you misunderstood. I did not say that they stopped the production - well, Alexander had to stop, when his factory was bombed out - but they probably stopped the export of their instruments. Germany was under blockade since early in the war. And remember, I am not a German citizen. Born in France to an Austrian father I never became a German. As I am rather cosmopolitan & this a pacifist, I have never had any revanchist thoughts.
It is simply absurd to see a swastika in any rotating wheel or rotating tree. One must not see a political or religious symbol in any rotating graphic design. Regards from Munich ####################################################################################################################### Am 11.08.2010 um 18:50 schrieb Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre: > I was aware your horn being an Alexander, but my interests are more general > about German brass making history, which was the perspective I attempted to > apply. > > I am very much in agreement with what Hans writes. Only he is a bit more > conservative on when the German brass instruments’ production stopped before > the war than I am. > > Klaus > > --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Old Horn >> To: "The Horn List" <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 6:32 PM >> Thanks Klaus, >> >> In all of my writing I did forget to mention that my horn >> is an Alexander. >> >> Milton >> Milton Kicklighter >> 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic >> Retired >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre <[email protected]> >> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 12:15:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Old Horn >> >> I was raised in Germany post-WWII even if I am as Danish as >> it comes. My father >> found a history textbook from the nazi era, which I >> remember reading as a teen. >> The nazis maintained the swastika being an original old >> German symbol, which is >> not true. I am sure swastika samples may be found from >> several periods of German >> history, yet I doubt they ever were widespread until the >> Nazi era starting >> slowly after WWI. The nazis ruled Germany from 1933 through >> their surrender in >> early May 1945. >> >> Before their taking over government I doubt any company >> would use the swastika >> symbol. Hans hints that practice not starting until 1934. >> >> Very much until Stalingrad the nazis believed they would >> win the war. I have >> seen a 1941 Knopf single F horn belonging to a now deceased >> Danish amateur >> player. >> >> I. K. Gottfried of Copenhagen stopped producing brass >> instruments in 1943, >> because they no longer could get valve blocks from >> Markneukirchen. >> >> This goes to say that Germany continued production not >> essential to warfare much >> longer than at least I would have expected. Boosey & >> Hawkes very soon were >> commandeered to make fuel supply systems for Spitfires and >> other fighter planes >> very soon after the outbreak of WWII. Conn made compasses >> rather than musical >> instruments. >> >> On a tangent: A lot of German brass makers lived in the >> Sudeten mountain region >> in Czechoslovakia along the border to Saxony. After the >> Munich agreement in 1938 >> the Sudeten area was annexed by Germany. I have seen photos >> of instruments >> engraved Sudetengau (the name of the German administrative >> region). This for >> sure dates these instruments after the annexation and >> before the end of the war. >> >> Klaus >> >> --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> From: Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Old Horn >>> To: "The Horn List" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 5:29 PM >>> Thanks Klaus, >>> >>> In what time period would the swastika on the horn >> have >>> been approprate? >>> >>> My thoughts were that since the symbol was so >> disguised as >>> to be almost >>> imposable to see, that it might have been forbidden. >>> >>> I am always interested in the historical >> possibilities. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Milton >>> Milton Kicklighter >>> 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic >>> Retired >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre <[email protected]> >>> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 11:17:50 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Old Horn >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I do >>>> know that I have owned >>>> the horn for forty plus years and the gentleman >> that >>> I >>>> bought it from had owned >>>> the horn for more than forty plus years. >>> >>> Two consecutive ownerships of each forty years plus >> would >>> date the horn to >>> pre-1930. A swastika would not likely have been part >> of the >>> engraving on a horn >>> made prior to 1933. >>> >>> Klaus >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> post: [email protected] >>> unsubscribe or set options at >>> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com >>> m >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> post: [email protected] >>> unsubscribe or set options at >>> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/yorkmasterbbb%40yahoo.com >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/yorkmasterbbb%40yahoo.com >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
