Wendell, I reply to your posting out of courtesy because I realise that it is to your advice that many on this list look to. However, I must take issue with you on one or two points. My reply, which brought up the 'whole glottal thing' was specifically concerned with the ending of notes other than staccato and you seem to extrapolate from that, via those that seek our help, that I advocate stopping short notes with the glottis. This is certainly not my way of thinking but you then go on to say that articulations (which exactly?) should be 'small actions of the tongue and not a lot of throat stuff'. I never have, nor ever will conflate 'articulations' with a 'lot of throat stuff' so I wonder where this comes from?
In your reply to William you say that 'you are right to think that stopping each note with the tongue would be a bad thing in a fast passage' but in your second posting you advocate 'toot' or 'teet' which to my mind, if you pronounce the last consonant in normal pronunciation, means ending the note with the tongue. I certainly accept your advocacy of the vowel sound between the two 'ts' otherwise you do get more tongue than note. There are not many linguistic and elocution experts, or (heaven forbid!), singing teachers who would agree that pronouncing with the tongue 'and suitable vowel sounds' can take the throat (presumably you mean the glottis) out of the equation. Ultimately, Valerie is right that there is more than one way of cracking a nut, but an acknowledgement of the skills of others in solving these universal problems might render the list more helpful to those who seek advice. Ralph R. Hall On 29 Jun 2011, at 19:37, Wendell Rider wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2011, at 10:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Message: 9 >> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:42:32 -0400 >> From: William Bard <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Articulation and 'airy' sound issues >> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII >> >> Also, I do agree about how the note should be stopped "like >> singers." I just question whether that should be the case for every >> style of music, or for rapidly tongued sections. Isn't it easiest >> to start the next note in a fast single-tongued section when the >> tongue stops each note to prevent the sound from going on for too >> long and to get ready for the next note? >> >> -William > > > Hi, > Actually, we aren't singers and that whole glottal thing is suspect > from my way of thinking. Articulations should be just small actions > of the tongue and not a lot of throat stuff. I think this is > confusing for a lot of people. You are right to think that stopping > each note with the tongue would be a bad thing in a fast passage and > I don't recommend it. It isn't necessary. But stopping notes with > the throat is even a worse idea. > It's very simple really and the more we get caught up in trying to > control muscles that our sub conscious can do much better, the worse > things get for us. We should use our mental powers to order up > product, not method. My methods keep the air going and allow for > every sort of expression. That is what we need to do, not sit around > and try to analyze and control our bodies. The body is capable of > much higher level activities than we can ever hope to even remotely > accomplish by conscious thinking. > Watch the great players. Note how little they are actually doing, > not how much. > Sincerely, > Wendell Rider > For information about my book, "Real World Horn Playing" and the > DVDs, go to my website: www.wendellworld.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/ralph%40brasshausmusic.com Ralph R. Hall [email protected] Ralph R. Hall http://www.brasshausmusic.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
