Powell's Books up in Portland, OR, is also a good source, though being there 
physically is best if you like to browse.

http://www.powells.com

Herb Foster




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From: Mr Robert Ward <[email protected]>
To: Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]>; The Horn List 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 12:48:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] stopping notes with the tongue, etc.

Hi Milton -

Over the years I made it is point to buy from used book sites on the internet 
any horn book I heard about.  So I think I bought it from:

http://www.abebooks.com/

It's a simple yet great site where I've also bought many genealogy related 
books 
too.

Bob

On Jul 3, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Milton Kicklighter wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>  
> Where did you get this copy of Gunthers book.  Many years ago a friend of 
>mine.... Fred Bradford.... showed me a pamphlet that Schuller had written and 
>this plus much about intonation was included in that pamphlet.  I would love 
>to 
>find a copy of it.
>  
> Thanks. 
> 
> Milton
> 
> Milton Kicklighter
> 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic
> Retired
> 
> From: Robert N. Ward <[email protected]>
>> To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 6:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] stopping notes with the tongue, etc.
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Every time this comes up I refer back to a snippet from Gunther Schuller's 
>>book...
>> 
>> From Schuller: Horn Technique - "A common misconception exists that staccato 
>>playing requires a different technical approach than more sustained playing. 
>>Nothing could be further from the truth. Essentially, a staccato note is 
>>produced exactly like any other note; that is to say, a clean attack (in 
>>staccato fairly sharp and pointed) is followed by a fully centered tone and 
>>ended quickly by the action of the larynx. Common faults in staccato playing 
>>are: a) the attack, because of the speed with which the tongue is required to 
>>move, is often fuzzy and unfocused; b)the tone, because of its relative 
>>brevity, 
>>is neglected and allowed to sound thin and pinched; and c) the tongue, rather 
>>than the larynx, is used to stop the note.  This latter fault gives the note 
>>an 
>>unpleasantly abrupt ending and makes the staccato sound choppy and 
>>aggressive. 
>>For my taste, the most attractive staccato in one in which each note is ever 
>>so 
>>slightly tapered at the end."
>> 
>> Robert N. Ward
>> Principal Horn
>> San Francisco Symphony
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Ralph Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Wendell, I reply to your posting out of courtesy because I realise  
>>> that it is to your advice that many on this list look to. However, I  
>>> must take issue with you on one or two points. My reply, which brought  
>>> up the 'whole glottal thing' was specifically concerned with the  
>>> ending of notes other than staccato and you seem to extrapolate from  
>>> that, via those that seek our help, that I advocate stopping short  
>>> notes with the glottis. This is certainly not my way of thinking but  
>>> you then go on to say that articulations (which exactly?) should be  
>>> 'small actions of the tongue and not a lot of throat stuff'. I never  
>>> have, nor ever will conflate 'articulations' with a 'lot of throat  
>>> stuff' so I wonder where this comes from?
>>> 
>>> In your reply to William you say that 'you are right to think that  
>>> stopping each note with the tongue would be a bad thing in a fast  
>>> passage' but in your second posting you advocate 'toot' or 'teet'  
>>> which to my mind, if you pronounce the last consonant in normal  
>>> pronunciation, means ending the note with the tongue. I certainly  
>>> accept your advocacy of the vowel sound between the two 'ts' otherwise  
>>> you do get more tongue than note. There are not many linguistic and  
>>> elocution experts, or (heaven forbid!), singing teachers who would  
>>> agree that pronouncing with the tongue 'and suitable vowel sounds' can  
>>> take the throat (presumably you mean the glottis) out of the equation.
>>> 
>>> Ultimately, Valerie is right that there is more than one way of  
>>> cracking a nut, but an acknowledgement of the skills of others in  
>>> solving these universal problems might render the list more helpful to  
>>> those who seek advice.
>>> 
>>> Ralph R. Hall
>> 
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