Well,

I just like hugin, maybe because I am a big fan of opensource software and
as a system analyst I surely have less problems with complex software than
a standard user. And here we are talking about photographers, that many
times have very few computer abilities. What I am trying to say is that I
surely see reason in those comments and it doesn't mean that I don't see
all the merit and effort made by developers, that do this for fun, for free
or whatever, as volunteers.

I surely see more hugin crashes on Windows and it surely contributes a lot
for hugin being less used, as I see windows as the biggest player in the
market share, at least here in Brazil, but have some feeling that worldwide
it is also the same.

I have done some workshops using both windows and linux. On Linux I don't
remember having crashes or any other problems, but on Windows, which is
only an option when the lab can't install Linux, I have already told people
to leave their computers and follow the workshop on a friends desktop,
cause there were nothing else we could do in the middle of the class.

Maybe we should focus a little bit more on windows versions to stabilize
it. Don't know if there are windows developers motivated for it.

I also see some effort to change its usability, and recent changes on the
interface show it, but I still see difficulties on new users to use it.
They usually prefer, as Jeff and others said, commercial softwares, like
PTGui. I think PTGui user interface is quite similar to Hugin, but I have
already seen some users preferring it...

Bests,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://www.panoforum.com.br/


2014-05-13 16:53 GMT-03:00 Jeff W <jeff.wischkaem...@gmail.com>:

> Unfortunately, I have to agree with Joergen here.
>
> Hugues comment wasn't terribly constructive, but that doesn't change the
> reality that Hugin has some significant issues compared to its competitors.
> CPFind and Nona are both painfully slow, and both Enblend and Enfuse
> frequently crash for me on multiple computers, at least two of which have
> 12GB of ram. Hugin's HDR_Merge output can sometimes produce nice results,
> but in my experience that happens perhaps 2 out of every 5 times, and the
> other three border on unusable. Add in random crashes of Hugin itself, and
> occasional serious bugs (which do generally get fixed, but there are always
> new ones to take their place), and I have a really difficult time
> recommending Hugin for anyone who is planning to take a lot of panoramas,
> or someone who is planning to take a particularly complicated project. I've
> gotten some nice results out of Hugin, but it's always felt like I'm
> fighting with the software... and frankly the time and frustration are
> worth the price of the other packages out there, at least for me.
>
> I've stitched dozens of panoramas in most of the major packages on the
> market. I keep Hugin installed because occasionally it's useful, but I
> don't think it's unfair to say that it is the least polished and most
> cantankerous stitching program out there. Of course, it's also the free-est
> stitching program out there, and in some sense you get what you pay for, in
> this case.
>
> I could live with the slowness, probably, if I had a high confidence that
> Hugin/Enblend/Enfuse/Nona/Hdr_merge would actually *work* without crashing
> on my project, and deliver acceptable results. Just for the heck of it, I
> pulled up one of my most recent panoramas in 2014.RC1 (Windows) to see if I
> could get it to stitch: "C:\Program: Interrupt/Exception caught (code =
> 0xc0000005, addr = 0x00007FF6DF9CC15F)"
>
> So there's that.
>
> It's clear, based on reviews, that I may be in the minority. Maybe the
> things I'm trying to do just aren't that common, but I've had *very* bad
> luck getting Hugin to consistently work on my projects.
>
> I've really wanted to like Hugin. But in the end, I haven't.
>
> On Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:13:13 AM UTC-4, Joergen Geerds wrote:
>>
>> While Hugues comment is indeed over the top, and in its actual content
>> not helpful to provide any help, there is fundamental truth in his
>> sentiment.
>> The beginning hurdle for me as an end user is finding a downloadable
>> binary, since http://hugin.sourceforge.net is the official homepage, but
>> not maintained since last year. it takes some serious looking around to
>> find a recent binary. I do this process about every 6-9 months, and in the
>> past it was always the same result: i couldn't use it (and this could be
>> very much a PEBKAC). I finally found a mac 2014.0rc2 version, installed it,
>> launched it, and get confronted with wxwidget error messages... not a good
>> start again. then I load a bunch of small fisheye tiffs (no exif data),
>> load them, and get asked to enter exif data for each of the 18 tiffs, one
>> by one (my mind hovers again next to the "should I just delete it again and
>> come back in 6 months?")... being confronted with more wx errors, and no
>> way to assign the same lens parameters to all source images (at least not
>> in a obvious way), I am going to give up today, since no control points
>> could be found, and maybe try again tomorrow. as it stands right now, I
>> have never in my whole pano life managed to get a single panorama out of
>> hugin, and I really tried (please don't bash me as a pano beginner). I
>> could maybe try harder to get around the quirks hugin is throwing my may,
>> and every time I install a new hugin I really want to believe that this is
>> the one that finally works, it is not the easiest task for users like me.
>>
>> so while Hugues comment is wrong from a bug fixing perspective, there is
>> enough truth to his sentiment to not bash it like it was.
>>
>> On Monday, March 24, 2014 3:08:01 PM UTC-4, Cartola wrote:
>>>
>>> Surely.
>>>
>>> And the main wrong thing we can see is that instead of asking how to do
>>> and tell what and how he has done, so we could help, he has just made
>>> useless comments. Looks like a user that deserves the good and old RTFM
>>> answer.
>>>
>>> I have stitched hundreds of panoramas with Hugin, but surely other
>>> stitchers also work. Just let him buy his proffered one or maybe do some
>>> piracy crime.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
>>> http://cartola.org/360
>>> http://www.panoforum.com.br/
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-24 15:36 GMT-03:00 Bart van Andel <bavan...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> That's weird. I can stitch whatever I want with this same Hugin program
>>>> and the results usually come out pretty nicely. Must be me doing something
>>>> wrong?
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 24, 2014 6:08:34 PM UTC+1, Hugues D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I just downloaded and installed Hugin. I then loaded 15 pictures I
>>>>> have stiched very easily with the free Microsoft ICE giving great results
>>>>> but some stiching errors. I thought that Hugin would be a better tool.
>>>>> Conclusion : Hugin is not even capable of finding two common points 
>>>>> between
>>>>> 2 pictures in my set of 15.
>>>>> This is ridiculous and unusable.
>>>>>
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