Well,
I just like hugin, maybe because I am a big fan of opensource software
and as a system analyst I surely have less problems with complex
software than a standard user. And here we are talking about
photographers, that many times have very few computer abilities. What I
am trying to say is that I surely see reason in those comments and it
doesn't mean that I don't see all the merit and effort made by
developers, that do this for fun, for free or whatever, as volunteers.
I surely see more hugin crashes on Windows and it surely contributes a
lot for hugin being less used, as I see windows as the biggest player in
the market share, at least here in Brazil, but have some feeling that
worldwide it is also the same.
I have done some workshops using both windows and linux. On Linux I
don't remember having crashes or any other problems, but on Windows,
which is only an option when the lab can't install Linux, I have already
told people to leave their computers and follow the workshop on a
friends desktop, cause there were nothing else we could do in the middle
of the class.
Maybe we should focus a little bit more on windows versions to stabilize
it. Don't know if there are windows developers motivated for it.
I also see some effort to change its usability, and recent changes on
the interface show it, but I still see difficulties on new users to use
it. They usually prefer, as Jeff and others said, commercial softwares,
like PTGui. I think PTGui user interface is quite similar to Hugin, but
I have already seen some users preferring it...
Bests,
Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://www.panoforum.com.br/
2014-05-13 16:53 GMT-03:00 Jeff W <jeff.wischkaem...@gmail.com
<mailto:jeff.wischkaem...@gmail.com>>:
Unfortunately, I have to agree with Joergen here.
Hugues comment wasn't terribly constructive, but that doesn't change
the reality that Hugin has some significant issues compared to its
competitors. CPFind and Nona are both painfully slow, and both
Enblend and Enfuse frequently crash for me on multiple computers, at
least two of which have 12GB of ram. Hugin's HDR_Merge output can
sometimes produce nice results, but in my experience that happens
perhaps 2 out of every 5 times, and the other three border on
unusable. Add in random crashes of Hugin itself, and occasional
serious bugs (which do generally get fixed, but there are always new
ones to take their place), and I have a really difficult time
recommending Hugin for anyone who is planning to take a lot of
panoramas, or someone who is planning to take a particularly
complicated project. I've gotten some nice results out of Hugin, but
it's always felt like I'm fighting with the software... and frankly
the time and frustration are worth the price of the other packages
out there, at least for me.
I've stitched dozens of panoramas in most of the major packages on
the market. I keep Hugin installed because occasionally it's useful,
but I don't think it's unfair to say that it is the least polished
and most cantankerous stitching program out there. Of course, it's
also the free-est stitching program out there, and in some sense you
get what you pay for, in this case.
I could live with the slowness, probably, if I had a high confidence
that Hugin/Enblend/Enfuse/Nona/Hdr_merge would actually *work*
without crashing on my project, and deliver acceptable results. Just
for the heck of it, I pulled up one of my most recent panoramas in
2014.RC1 (Windows) to see if I could get it to stitch: "C:\Program:
Interrupt/Exception caught (code = 0xc0000005, addr =
0x00007FF6DF9CC15F)"
So there's that.
It's clear, based on reviews, that I may be in the minority. Maybe
the things I'm trying to do just aren't that common, but I've had
/very/ bad luck getting Hugin to consistently work on my projects.
I've really wanted to like Hugin. But in the end, I haven't.
On Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:13:13 AM UTC-4, Joergen Geerds wrote:
While Hugues comment is indeed over the top, and in its actual
content not helpful to provide any help, there is fundamental
truth in his sentiment.
The beginning hurdle for me as an end user is finding a
downloadable binary, since http://hugin.__sourceforge.net
<http://hugin.sourceforge.net> is the official homepage, but not
maintained since last year. it takes some serious looking around
to find a recent binary. I do this process about every 6-9
months, and in the past it was always the same result: i
couldn't use it (and this could be very much a PEBKAC). I
finally found a mac 2014.0rc2 version, installed it, launched
it, and get confronted with wxwidget error messages... not a
good start again. then I load a bunch of small fisheye tiffs (no
exif data), load them, and get asked to enter exif data for each
of the 18 tiffs, one by one (my mind hovers again next to the
"should I just delete it again and come back in 6 months?")...
being confronted with more wx errors, and no way to assign the
same lens parameters to all source images (at least not in a
obvious way), I am going to give up today, since no control
points could be found, and maybe try again tomorrow. as it
stands right now, I have never in my whole pano life managed to
get a single panorama out of hugin, and I really tried (please
don't bash me as a pano beginner). I could maybe try harder to
get around the quirks hugin is throwing my may, and every time I
install a new hugin I really want to believe that this is the
one that finally works, it is not the easiest task for users
like me.
so while Hugues comment is wrong from a bug fixing perspective,
there is enough truth to his sentiment to not bash it like it was.
On Monday, March 24, 2014 3:08:01 PM UTC-4, Cartola wrote:
Surely.
And the main wrong thing we can see is that instead of
asking how to do and tell what and how he has done, so we
could help, he has just made useless comments. Looks like a
user that deserves the good and old RTFM answer.
I have stitched hundreds of panoramas with Hugin, but surely
other stitchers also work. Just let him buy his proffered
one or maybe do some piracy crime.
Cheers,
Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://www.panoforum.com.br/
2014-03-24 15:36 GMT-03:00 Bart van Andel <bavan...@gmail.com>:
That's weird. I can stitch whatever I want with this
same Hugin program and the results usually come out
pretty nicely. Must be me doing something wrong?
On Monday, March 24, 2014 6:08:34 PM UTC+1, Hugues D wrote:
Hi,
I just downloaded and installed Hugin. I then loaded
15 pictures I have stiched very easily with the free
Microsoft ICE giving great results but some stiching
errors. I thought that Hugin would be a better tool.
Conclusion : Hugin is not even capable of finding
two common points between 2 pictures in my set of 15.
This is ridiculous and unusable.
