Thanks for getting me to clarify, Trev - I realise I didn't mean 'symptoms', I meant characteristics. Given that we humans are very similar to one another, the repeated, classic characteristics of the hum suggests it comes from humans. The external environment, on the other hand, contains such enormous differences that if the hum was external, the characteristics vary greatly. I appreciate that there seems to be a variation in the intensity of the hum, depending upon one's environment, but that can easily suggest that the evironment has an impact upon the internal hum. I shouldn't have described it as an illness - more a 'condition'.
Apologies if I'm trying to explain it away - perhaps just my personal way of coping with it. I'm a teacher and I have two young children - life is a bit fraught as even driving seems dangerous at the moment as I feel drunk all the time, along with dizzy and forgetful - you all know what it's like - so I guess I'm a bit eager for an explanation that is rationally acceptable to me, even if the cause can't be nailed down. I like the rhyme: "For every ailment under the sun There is a remedy, or there is none; If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." >From rummaging around online, I'm pretty certain I will not find a remedy so I'm trying to 'never mind'. Lydia On 11 Dec, 13:29, Trev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > @Zen > An external noise bothering us world wide would present a far larger > variety of symptoms > > I don't follow this logic- surely 'its' subtle side effect nature is > in keeping with a 'threshold effect ' rather than an illness tendency > as suggested. > The very fact that there are no other methods of pickup of hum is a > measure of its iniquitous nature and really just makes it harder to > nail- rather than explain it away IMO! > I can't think what 'other effects' would show -if the only thing > picked up is 'ultra marginal' and most likely unintended*. > > *At least , I hope that's the case ! > > On Dec 11, 10:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Thank you so much for your replies, gentlemen, and the link you've > > provided, Geoff, has truly cheered me up - thanks! > > > The fact that the hum shows such 'classic' symptoms, repeated > > worldwide, overwhelmingly suggests to me that it is a phenonmenon > > within the human head and nothing to do with anything external, just > > as chicken pox sufferers have the same symptoms the world over. Our > > human bodies are far more similar than different so if we are all > > experiencing the same symptoms, we all have the same 'disease'. An > > external noise bothering us world wide would present a far larger > > variety of symptoms, surely? > > > I'm only 42 and have read that I'm not really supposed to hear the hum > > until I'm over 50 so I may have many years of it to suffer. I'm > > delighted therefore that I found this site and that very helpful link, > > Geoff - at one point I could see myself spending far too much time > > trying to identify external causes - now I know I just have to learn > > to deal with it. > > > Incidentally, I did have a very large brain tumour removed from the > > humming side of my head (six years ago); I recovered quickly and > > completely but it has left a cavity the size of an orange in my head - > > don't know if that would add anything to the likelihood of a hum. I'd > > be interested to add to any statistics of hum sufferers as I can see I > > fit into the 26% of those with injuries on the John Dawes site - if > > anyone knows of any current survey I can add to. I'm in South West > > England by the way, half a mile from Bristol - it was vague memories > > of the Bristol Hum that got me investigating. > > > Cheers, > > Lydia > > > On 10 Dec, 20:08, "Geoff Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:hum- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 December 2008 12:31 a.m. > > > > To: Hum Sufferers > > > > Subject: Re: TRACING THE HUM/Article Epoch Times(John Dawes) > > > > > As a rationalist and materialist, Geoff, and someone who's only > > > > recently tuned into The Hum, I'm interested in your diagnosis of LF > > > > tinnitus. > > > > That is refreshing ;-! > > > > > Details about tinnitus in general don't bear any relation to my hum (a > > > > low drone, fluctuating, heard during the night but only on some > > > > nights, > > > > Similar to mine then . Agree not anything like the sound of common > > > tinnitus. > > > > Tuesdays particularly bad at the moment (I have to get up > > > > > earlier than usual on Wednesdays which could be an explanation), > > > > Following a more stressful part of the week maybe ? > > > > > splutters out often in early hours, as if it's been switched off, no > > > > obvious external cause. Feels like a vibration in the right-hand > > > > side of my head, rather than an actual sound - if I 'listen' out for > > > > it I can't hear it but then it suddenly emerges from the back, rather > > > > than from my ear. > > > > I sometimes get it in one, and other times in both ears. Last time I had > > > it > > > in left ear only - when inserting finger it changed from Hum to a physical > > > spasming. > > > > >I gave up caffeine twenty years ago so this is not > > > > a contributor but recently I have correlated the sound to be worse > > > > when I've had alcohol. > > > > I am still on about 5 coffees a day. No Hum at present, but I have regular > > > tinnitus in my right ear, which I imagine gets worse after a glass or two > > > of > > > wine . > > > > >I can cope with it better when I've had a > > > > chamomile tea and some celery and peanut butter (for the tryptophans) > > > > shortly before bedtime - I still hear it but it is not so bothersome. > > > > I have never had tinnitus but always had rather sensitive ears - I > > > > hate thunder and fireworks and have used ear plugs for years. Ear > > > > plugs make The Hum worse, of course - I have to take them out to > > > > minimize my awareness of the vibration.) > > > > My ears have become more sensitive to noise in general ( complicated by > > > easy > > > internal blockage) which is normal with increasing age, evidently. > > > > > This is the best explanation I've read so far though I admit it's not > > > > very satisfying. When I first started hearing the hum on a regular > > > > basis about three months ago I was convinced it was external and > > > > extremely frustrated by my husband's insistence that it was all in my > > > > head (simply because he couldn't hear it). Having experimented and > > > > found how much worse it is when I am stressed, tired and drink sodden, > > > > It is especially frustrating when the Hum you hear is so loud and clear > > > that > > > you cannot believe that others cannot hear it ! > > > > > I am more inclined to accept that it might be in my head though I find > > > > this difficult as it makes me sound a bit of a nutter. > > > > You want to see some real nutters, just hang around here for a bit ! It > > > certainly is 'in your head', but not in a nutter sense - it is a real > > > sound, > > > but just not one generated and propagated by he usual means ! > > > > > I'm also > > > > baffled by the way it seems to turn off, as if by a switch - around > > > > 5.00 a.m. last night. Just wondering if you have found an explanation > > > > for that part of it in your low frequency tinnitus diagnosis, > > > > I have had it switching on and off every 5 seconds for a few minutes once. > > > This was around the time of the finger-ear-spasm-thing, but did not seem > > > to > > > be related to anything physical I was doing at the time ( layiong still > > > !). > > > > > I think the more I have an explanation for The Hum, the more I'll be > > > > able to dismiss it - at the moment, I try to convince myself to > > > > believe that I've left the tumble dryer on. > > > > Not helpful, because things like that can cause real measurable audible > > > (by > > > everybody hums, and just confuse the whole matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hum Sufferers" group. 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