I was wondering because in @FILE404 in the pds I found this statement: An interface to the Network Communication Control Facility (NCCF) allows the network operator to use TSSO as a command processor, issuing and receiving operating system commands at the NCCF terminal. Note that NCCF is now an integrated part of Netview.
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TSSO use of NETVIEW Mike NCCF certainly makes a bit more sense. However, TSSO "automation" is still independent of NetView automation which can be traced to a development of the NCCF component of NetView. It's not clear what you had in mind with your original post but if it is asking whether NetView is required in order to use TSSO "automation", I'm pretty sure - although I'm not really that familiar with TSSO - that the answer is "no". The reason I am pretty sure is that I used to set up a crude form of automation of system functions myself quite independent of NCCF as it then was. I suspect that the package of functions, which TSSO seems to be, incorporated some of the MVS "tricks" - together with an odd "home-grown" program - that I used to use and which served to teach me what was needed in order properly to create automated operation. Chris Mason On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:59:15 -0500, Ward, Mike S <mw...@ssfcu.org> wrote: >OOPS, I meant to key NCCF and stuck an I in there by mistake. > >-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On >Behalf Of Chris Mason >Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:39 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Subject: Re: TSSO use of NETVIEW > >Mike > >There's a touch of "Are you *still* beating your wife?" about this! > >a. NetView is a rather large set of programs which includes the >capability to >set up system automation such that you can have totally silent running >(with >the aid of the MPF function). I know because I used to do this with my >hands- >on education systems. NetView comes from IBM - although Tivoli likes to >pretend it comes from Tivoli! > >b. I had to look up TSSO. It comes from Bell Labs. My Googling shows >that it >can be found as file 401 on the CBT tape - of which much is spoken in >this >list. It appears to dabble in system automation but seems to depend only >on >basic MVS functions and TSO - probably in batch mode. > >c. I also had to check on ICCF. This is exclusively a VSE "thing". I >believe it >does some TSO functions for VSE. > >Thus none of the above have - nor never had - anything to do with one >another - unless you count being able to use NetView's NCCF TAF to use >TSO - which is a very tenuous connection! > >Chris Mason > >On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:58:35 -0500, Ward, Mike S <mw...@ssfcu.org> >wrote: > >>Hello all, I thought I had read that TSSO uses or used part of Netview >>ICCF I think. >> >> >>Is this still true? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ========================== This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
