Denis, Just making my point for me. Don't get me wrong... I think it is great that MVS does such a wonderful job of things.. especially abends. And DB2 for rolling things back. But I know that there are developers on this list who write some damn good code and use abends judiciously. The assumption that programmers can't take care of business is just a fallacy.
It is almost windows mentality "just reboot to fix it". DB2 has given the programmer the ability to control when things are done.. are we advocating that the programmers are just too stupid to take advantage of it? Well, as for autocommit that you are referring.. it is more of an online thing.. and yes.. application programmers are notoriously lazy (to which they'll reply but Oracle does it for me.. why should I care.. and why doesn't DB2 just read my mind?) when it comes to such things. 1) do work, if bad rollback to prior savepoint 2) commit 3) savepoint Now granted in the promise land of all things java, programmers are supposed to be programming logic and leaving plumbing up to those that know how to do it (too many acronyms to list.. BPL comes to mind) But shouldn't the plumbing be taking advantage of everything offered... instead of oops.. just abend for any condition and stop processing. For that matter.. lets just abend CICS or WebSphere .. go out for coffee (or beverage of choice) and just leave everything in a down condition. We can get along without all these pesky computers... get back to stone age living. I thought this thread started out more as a batch issue. Oh well.. I guess it comes down to the difference of good programming and poor programming. Cheers, Rob Schramm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
