Rick,

I would hedge my bets on the CD-ROM or DVD long-term archival method.
I've seen estimates that range from 100's of year life expectancy on
this media type all the way down to 2-3 years is all the longer you can
expect to reliably read data off them.  One place even said you should
put the burned CDs or DVDs in zip-lock bags and put them in the freezer
to extend their shelf life!

A lot of it will depend on the media and the actual recording techniques
used.  I personally wouldn't trust the "dirt-cheap" media for very long
- from personal experience.  My wife put together a slide show for her
parents' 50th wedding anniversary.  She burned about 30 copies of the
DVD after creating it.  After 2 years most of the burned copies were
having read errors and after 3 they were all completely unusable.  

Rex

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Disk replacing Tape?

Have you considered burning CD-ROMs or DVDs for storage, rather than 
tape? Drives can be less expensive, the media is dirt cheap compared to 
tape and for historical purposes the result will probably last far
longer.

Rick
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Matan Cohen wrote:

>As a small develop company which don't use the tape to archive only for
>backups.
>We are in the processing of get rid of our 3590 (actually the tape
driver
> stop working yesterday).
>we found that it will be the best solution for us is to backup our DATA
to
>disk and then send it to other more cheaper platform (windows) which
will
>manage the writing to tapes.
>so all of this step is more for getting rid of the 3590 not Tapes from
the
>cost aspect .
>
>
>On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Gibney, Dave <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
>>>Behalf Of John McKown
>>>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:38 PM
>>>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>>>Subject: Re: Disk replacing Tape?
>>>
>>>On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 16:20 -0700, Ed Gould wrote:
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>>>
>>>>Over the last few years I have seen more and more articles stating
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>companies are replacing tape drives with disk drives.
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I realize that most of the talk is from small computer users.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>However I
>>    
>>
>>>> am seeing and hearing stories that the movement has started with
>>>> mainframes. I was wondering if anyone on here is seeing that trend
>>>>        
>>>>
>>or
>>    
>>
>>>> staying the same (or increasing). Now I know tape capacity is going
>>>> through the roof and that might be the reason why some people are
>>>> saying disk is replacing tape. Disk space is really becoming
>>>>        
>>>>
>>cheaper
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>>
>>>> so its not impossible that this might be happening.
>>>>
>>>>>From my (admittedly dated) perspective, until the ability to share
>>>> disk drives (transparently) I do not see the use of tape really
>>>> decreasing all that much. I would like to hear from the list what
>>>> their thoughts are about disk replacing tapes on the mainframe
>>>> happening. Soon/not in the next 20 years/never.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I often wonder how these non-tape users address things like 10 year
>>>archival copies of programs, data, and reports. Which we need for
>>>      
>>>
>>legal
>>    
>>
>>>reasons.
>>>      
>>>
>>DFHSM with SMS MGMTCLAS controlled retention.
>>We also have Control-D for report management and CA-Endevor for source
>>management.
>>
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>>
>>>--
>>>John McKown
>>>Maranatha! <><
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