It sounds like z/OS 1.13 will have a lot of great features. Rob/John: It sounds like z/OS 1.13 will have a lot of great features. I also am an ex-VMer, about 10+ yrs worth, loved CMS. TSO kinda pales in compassion to CMS, IMHO.
Scott J Ford ________________________________ From: Rob Schramm <rob.schr...@gmail.com> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 11:19:43 AM Subject: Re: z/OS 1.13 preview John, Not that I am a firm advocate of vi ... (I used to complain endlessly about it when I was working on AIX and grew to more of a grudging acceptance because it was one of the few things I could count on when moving in between the various UNIX flavors) but it is nice to know the basics. I am encouraged that even vi made the list for 1.13. I have to agree that additional movement in Unix System Services shell would be a good thing. Although, I think I see the writing clearly when it comes to zOSMF. I think that zOSMF will become the defacto delivery for all new interactions with z/OS. It is just way too much of a no-brainer. Not that I see them dropping TSO/ISPF because having a fairly simple way to interact with z/OS is always going to be a requirement. Rob On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:07 AM, McKown, John < john.mck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm > > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:59 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > > Subject: Re: z/OS 1.13 preview > > > > Does anyone else think that working with z/OS is completely > > the coolest > > thing since the invention of "sliced bread"? > > > > I am reading thru the 1.13 announcement and there is alot of > > really cool > > stuff. It is hard to just select a few things to talk about. > > > > Rob Schramm > > For a general purpose, all around, reliable operating system, z/OS is > excellent. It may fall behind others in specific areas. Eg: TSO on z/OS > stinks (IMO) compared to a CMS on z/VM. With some enhancements, a z/OS UNIX > shell could easily become my interactive environment of choice. The main > enhancement would be an ISPF for UNIX which would allow me to do SDSF, > edit/view/browse, DSLIST, and HCD in a X window on my desktop. And if IBM > were to embrace the GNU versions of the UNIX utilities instead of their own > versions, I'd be in nerd-vana. > > Too bad most managers truly believe that "Windows is faster, better, > cheaper!" than z/OS. That was a mantra around here about 3 years ago. > > -- > John McKown > Systems Engineer IV > IT > > Administrative Services Group > > HealthMarkets(r) > > 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 > (817) 255-3225 phone * > john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or > proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original > message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and > issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake > Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of > TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- Rob Schramm Senior Systems Engineer w: 513.305.6224 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
