--- On Tue, 2/15/11, August Carideo <august.cari...@avon.com> wrote: VSE has come a long way since what a lot used to know it as not up to par w/ Z/os for something's esp with right OEM s/w beats it in others ( just my opinion , and yes I know what opinions are like no need to remind me )
I cannot remember where my first run in with VSE was. It was a LONG time ago. Probably im the mid 70's (???). I think it was in St Louis at an IBM school there.We were trying to set up a 4331 for our New York Office. It was either there or out in the LA IBM office. All I can remember is that I did not like it in general. It was not consistant on how it handled "things" (control cards and the like) its been so long that the abiortion must have reconcieved. I dio remember thinking IBM was out of their gourd for propegatting it and it shouuld have been put on suicide watch (I would have helped pull ther trigger). I hated St Louis and I disliked LA. I know I was even brought out for several interviews and they would not take no for an answer. One time I was out in the high desert west of LA in the middle on nowhere. They now use it to land the shuttle I think. at least they used a civilized OS there even though it was supposedly top secret and we couldn't even ask for IBM help. I know dos had a die hard following but IBM should jave just said no more. Rob Schramm <rob.schramm@GMAI L.COM> To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Mainframe cc Discussion List <ibm-m...@bama.ua Subject .edu> Re: z/OS 1.13 preview 02/15/2011 11:09 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List <ibm-m...@bama.ua .edu> I think VM is cool too. I don't really have an opinion about VSE. Although, it has been my experience that each of the Operating Systems out there have their "cool points". I just am really excited about the 1.13 things... and I am not finished reading the whole thing. Rob On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:02 AM, August Carideo <august.cari...@avon.com>wrote: > I like VM/VSE better > Ok now don't beat me up here > LOL > > > > > Rob Schramm > <rob.schramm@GMAI > L.COM> To > Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Mainframe cc > Discussion List > <ibm-m...@bama.ua Subject > .edu> Re: z/OS 1.13 preview > > > 02/15/2011 10:59 > AM > > > Please respond to > IBM Mainframe > Discussion List > <ibm-m...@bama.ua > .edu> > > > > > > > Does anyone else think that working with z/OS is completely the coolest > thing since the invention of "sliced bread"? > > I am reading thru the 1.13 announcement and there is alot of really cool > stuff. It is hard to just select a few things to talk about. > > Rob Schramm > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Steve Comstock > <st...@trainersfriend.com>wrote: > > > Today the IBM announcements newsletter included the > > preview for z/OS 1.13. > > > > One point that caught my eye immediately: > > > > * Support is planned for in-stream data sets > > to be used within JCL procedures and for > > include statements. > > > > Well! That's been a long time coming. But I'm sure > > more than a few on this list will appreciate it. > > (Note: announced for JES2 only) > > > > > > Another interesting change: > > > > * Support is planned for job return codes. > > This support will be designed to allow you > > to specify that the job return code be set > > to the highest return code encountered by > > any step, the last step, or a specified > > step in the job. This will help make it > > simpler to interpret the results of job > > execution. > > > > > > For ISPF: > > > > * Line command level Edit macros > > > > > > There are _tons_ of other enhancements listed: > > this looks to be one of the most complex new > > releases in quite a while. I'll report on the > > ones that seem significant to the application > > development community in my annual post after > > the docs are available and I've had a chance > > to through them more carefully. But the > > above seemed significant and easy to grasp > > right away. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Kind regards, > > > > -Steve Comstock > > The Trainer's Friend, Inc. > > > > 303-393-8716 > > http://www.trainersfriend.com > > > > * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! > > + Training your people is an excellent investment > > > > * Try our new tool for calculating your Return On Investment > > for training dollars at > > http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > > > -- > Rob Schramm > Senior Systems Engineer > > w: 513.305.6224 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- Rob Schramm Senior Systems Engineer w: 513.305.6224 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
