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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:54 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Use of FORCE
> 
> 
> >I must be doing something wrong then since we have seen 
> several problems in the past couple of years (certainly less 
> than 20 years) with using FORCE.
> 
> We are using it at least twice a month, unfortunately.
> One business-critical task is taking a S0C4 occasionally, and 
> won't cancel since it's swapped out.
> 
> So, it's:
> CANCEL <task>
> FORCE <task>
> FORCE <task>,ARM
> <wait>
> START <task>
> 
> We have been waiting on the vendor for a fix since November.
> We have received a few broken fixes, but we are still waiting.
> It's a niche product, so we don't have much choice.
> 
> 
> BTW, we haven't had a problem with FORCE, yet.
> 
> But, the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
> 
> When in doubt.
> PANIC!!    

Ted,

This is likely not possible, but have you considered writing an
assembler routine which does an ATTACHX on the actual program. This
routine would normally just wait for the attached program to terminate.
However, upon command, the routine would traverse its child TCB list
(recursively), looking for and removing any ESTAE type recovery
routines. Once it has done this, it would DETACH the TCB and terminate
"normally". I'm not even sure that this would work. 

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John McKown
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