On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:43:38 -0600, McKown, John wrote: > >> It has also been mentioned a couple times in this thread that the >> z/OS operator's 327x console is free of the half-duplex constraint: >> the operator never needs to press ATTN before entering a command. >> >> I'd be delighted to see an alternative implementation of OMVS that >> bypasses TSO (or is VTAM the culprit?) and passes 327x data streams >> more directly to the terminal. > >Can't be VTAM. Using SMCS, you can now run a true z/OS console on a VTAM >3270 LU. Works identically to a DIDOCS 3270 console. We now use them for >some Production Control people who are remote to the data center, but >need to have a console around to see messages "real time". TN3270E to >VTAM to SMCS for a console. Works well with all three of our TN3270 >terminal emulators (Hummingbird, BlueZone, and Rumba). > As an experiment, I composed the EXEC on VM/CMS:
/* Rexx */ signal on novalue address 'COMMAND' do forever say date() time() do while externals()>0 parse pull Line say Line; end 'PIPE literal +10 | delay'; end ... then from an ISPF session, I "TSO TELNET VMCMS" in 3270 mode. It mostly works; I can type ahead for 10 seconds, and the input typed ahead comes out in the pull...say loop. But it stutters; some characters are repeated; it seems that I can type characters after I press ENTER but before the cursor is placed at the left end of the input area. I wonder whether TELNET plays the same invisible polling game as OMVS? Now I must try it from a linemode z/OS Unix session, if only to see how externals() behaves under Unix. About SMCS being unavailable during IPL, haven't I seen some discussion here of a remote HMC? Would that suffice? Or are there operator commands that can't be issued at the HMC? And more on your perplexity about my suggestion of "background initiated foreground": I've seen some sentiment here that a class of users prefer linemode for general Unix operations, but OEDIT/OBROWSE in their specialty areas. Wouldn't it be at least convenient in a linemode z/OS Unix session to issue: DISPLAY=local.desktop export DISPLAY oedit some.file ... and have a new, genuine x3270 window running ISPF/PDF pop up on one's desktop? No need to enter user ID and password; current working directory and environment inherited from the Unix session; and if the user has issued a "su" command, OEDIT would run with the new user ID, not that of the original TSO session as is the present (mis-)behavior of OEDIT under OMVS. -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html