On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:20:49 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: >It is no doubt futile to try to reign in this thread, but many of the >responses have been very helpful to me. Thanks. > >For me, key points are: > >1) OMVS works in a pinch, but I'm not the only one that finds it painful. >OEDIT or OBROWSE commands get you back into an ISPF dialog so that you can >flip around with other dialogs / splits, etc. > And I assume that in that ISPF dialog you could enter "TSO OMVS" on the command line. But that creates a new OMVS session. You can't swap back and forth neither to the original OMVS session nor to the dialog(s) in the split adjacent to that from which you launched it.
>2) ISPF can't handle "pseudo full duplex" 3270 sessions (like VM/CMS, >MVS/Console, etc.), so it is not obvious that a really nice OMVS replacement >could be written as an ISPF dialog. > "not obvious", or even "obviously not"? >3) ISHELL can be used not only as a filesystem navigator, but also to enter >shell commands. It is an ISPF dialog, so doesn't suffer in the same ways as >OMVS. > It suffers in some of the same ways; in some ways different, even worse. Principally, it's basically a batch protocol; you don't see output until the shell command completes. You can't even tell whether it's looping, perhaps spewing to stdout. It might even be a better option to enter the shell command in a BPXBATCH or BPXWUNIX batch job. At least that way you can monitor its output with SDSF or ISV replacements. >4) If you want a real Unix shell, your best bet is to use a (non-3270) >Telnet or SSH shell. (Putty on Windows or "ssh" on Linux are good choices) > Yes. -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
