Y E S ! (Could not use ISPF on floor system)
Also, sometimes (and this also happened to me) the ISPF Datasets are
"not there" yet when the first wave of users LOGs ON after the first IPL.
On 2021-01-27 20:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
If I have a working TSO logon proc then I can allocate the libraries that ISPF
needs. It's only if someone clobbers those that I would need to resort to TSO
EDIT.
Have you been at DRs where you couldn't use ISPF from the floor system?
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Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH,
I meant that your LOGON PROC has a JCL Error and you're stuck using a
bare-bones TSO LOGON PROC with no ISPF ALLOCATions (JCL or Dynamically
ALLOCATEd).
I've done DRs where this has actually occurred. Consider yourself fortunate.
Regards,
David
On 2021-01-27 19:43, Seymour J Metz wrote:
If my LOGON proc has a JCL error then I can't use TSO EDIT.
Every DR site I've been at has allowed use of its floor system to adjust things
and sometimes to do the restores.
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Sure ... unless ... your LOGON PROC got a JCL Error and you need to fix
it, or, possibly a DR.
On 2021-01-27 19:25, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Yes, and you can write macros for it. Still, when you have ISPF available
there's little call to use TSO EDIT.
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 11:21, Tom Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> wrote:
That's probably true, but around 2005 when I didn't have enough z/OS
work to do, I moved about half my time over to the dark side of AIX,
Linux, and at least a couple of other Unixes that I can't remember -
working with a bunch of folks who never touched a mainframe. I don't
remember a single complaint about vi from them. I did ask why (in the
world) they used it, and they said because it's always available by
default - no install needed.
TSO "EDIT" is always available on z/OS... Doesn't even require a 3270!
Tony H.
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