If I have a working TSO logon proc then I can allocate the libraries that ISPF needs. It's only if someone clobbers those that I would need to resort to TSO EDIT.
Have you been at DRs where you couldn't use ISPF from the floor system? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Spiegel [dspiegel...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 8:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF for mainframe Linux Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, I meant that your LOGON PROC has a JCL Error and you're stuck using a bare-bones TSO LOGON PROC with no ISPF ALLOCATions (JCL or Dynamically ALLOCATEd). I've done DRs where this has actually occurred. Consider yourself fortunate. Regards, David On 2021-01-27 19:43, Seymour J Metz wrote: > If my LOGON proc has a JCL error then I can't use TSO EDIT. > > Every DR site I've been at has allowed use of its floor system to adjust > things and sometimes to do the restores. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cdeb9033561d54903b8c408d8c325dcc9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637473914698372478%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=4vpjdBo2Xxnc%2Bc%2BQXxyBSaO9miYokXQfhqij3GiSXyE%3D&reserved=0 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > David Spiegel [dspiegel...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ISPF for mainframe Linux > > Sure ... unless ... your LOGON PROC got a JCL Error and you need to fix > it, or, possibly a DR. > > On 2021-01-27 19:25, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> Yes, and you can write macros for it. Still, when you have ISPF available >> there's little call to use TSO EDIT. >> >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cdeb9033561d54903b8c408d8c325dcc9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637473914698372478%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=4vpjdBo2Xxnc%2Bc%2BQXxyBSaO9miYokXQfhqij3GiSXyE%3D&reserved=0 >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of >> Tony Harminc [t...@harminc.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 4:00 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: ISPF for mainframe Linux >> >> On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 11:21, Tom Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> >> wrote: >> >>> That's probably true, but around 2005 when I didn't have enough z/OS >>> work to do, I moved about half my time over to the dark side of AIX, >>> Linux, and at least a couple of other Unixes that I can't remember - >>> working with a bunch of folks who never touched a mainframe. I don't >>> remember a single complaint about vi from them. I did ask why (in the >>> world) they used it, and they said because it's always available by >>> default - no install needed. >> TSO "EDIT" is always available on z/OS... Doesn't even require a 3270! >> >> Tony H. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> . > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
