David,

Prove your claim reg. "Enterprise software". Give at least one sample. My
claim is already proved. Nordea bank was penetrated from USS, LOG4J is an
open source.

ITschak

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On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 2:27 AM David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 29/1/22 12:53 am, Phil Smith III wrote:
> >> pipeline every time we merge into our development branch or master.
> >
> >
> > I know YOU know this, David, but it bears stating explicitly: none of
> these
> > tools would (did) detect the log4j vuln.
>
> I'm cognizant to that. Humans find vulnerabilities. In the case of
> log4shell it was a security researcher at Alibaba who then reported it
> to Apache.
> In the case of Shellshock, Heartbeat, Meltdown, Spectre etc it was
> security researchers at google. Big tech offer bounties to anybody who
> finds vulnerabilities in their products.
> As soon as a 0day is found, it is reported to the maintainer and then
> logged in the CVE database and disclosed to the world. Compare this to
> IBM who have typically corporate
> disclosure rules. A case in point is IBM rejecting a 0Day disclosure
> which they said was "out of scope" with their disclosure rules and then
> did a U-turn and blamed a process
> error.
> https://techmonitor.ai/techonology/cybersecurity/ibms-data-risk-manager
>
> ITschak is of the opinion that the mainframe is less secure because of
> the use of open source software. I would argue that a lot of Enterprise
> software is just as vulnerable. And in a lot of
> cases more vulnerable because it is closed source doesn't have as many
> eyes scrutinizing it. Others may have the opposite opinion.
>
>
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