I had a lively discussion with Mr. Zelden about zAAP on Main. We ran WAS 3.02 freeware pre zAAP in 2001. CPC was 9672-RB6, 2 way 166 MIPS.When we started the server address space the lights dimmed. I crowed loudly to IBM about having a min. requirement for MIPS which came out in a later offering with documentation. Took a while but zAAP would have helped mitigate that power drain on the LPAR as an asset so for me it was in direct correlation to a performance boost and less to do with marketing as we might have assumed at the time ... just saying ... Sadly I never obtained a machine with zAAP and was left with fiddling with tuning the environment best I could.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> Date: 5/20/22 7:09 AM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mark your calendars for July 10, 2022 - CustomPac intended removal date Did the MP2000 and MP3000 simulate S/390 on x86 chips, use P/390 technology or use tailored hardware?Since ZAAP (remember it?) and ZIIP are marketing gimmicks to begin with, IBM could easilly add one to the mix if they believed that there was a business case.--Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metzhttp://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3________________________________________From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Andrew Rowley [and...@blackhillsoftware.com]Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 8:23 PMTo: ibm-m...@listserv.ua.EDUSubject: Re: Mark your calendars for July 10, 2022 - CustomPac intended removal dateOn 19/05/2022 5:50 pm, Timothy Sipples wrote:> That’s even more difficult to characterize, but (eyeballing it) 1000X> must be too high.Maybe... it's hard to find a good comparison over that length of time.But a Multiprise 2000 is in the original Pentium era.A $1500 Lenovo boasts an Intel i7 with 8 cores/16 threads. If 8 coresgives e.g. 5x throughput, it only has to achieve 200x the single CPUspeed of a 1996 Pentium for 1000x increase overall. It might not be1000X but it must be close.> Having a zIIP gives you plenty of horsepower for z/OSMF, and having an IBM z15 gives you System Recovery Boost which gives you…plenty of horsepower for z/OSMF at least during the first 60 minutes. (It’s the z/OSMF startup that can take a long time on a low capacity configuration.I wouldn't be surprised if once people start using z/OSMF, it's not justthe startup that is slow on a small system. Maybe IBM should giveeveryone one zIIP with their z/OS 2.5 license... it might even be auseful stimulus for smaller z/OS sites.--Andrew RowleyBlack Hill Software----------------------------------------------------------------------For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN----------------------------------------------------------------------For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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