I use, have been using for many years the ServerPac dialog, I like it, it's easy to use and you get 2 very clear docs 'using the dialog' and 'installing your order', and of course the migration guide.

I've not use CBPDO, but IIRC when I joined state Gov long ago as a SYSPROG they used this offering.

for products maybe its best? sure beats z/OSMF especially now that I have to wait for an APAR (PTF) to be applied to my system just to accept the json file format, that's just crazy, and there's no work around.

Carmen

On 8/31/2022 8:01 AM, Keith Gooding wrote:
Why would anyone use CBPDO + SMP/E to install z/OS ? (Not a rhetorical 
question).

Z/OSMF Serverpac installation is good but you may not want to use a Serverpac 
to install a single product such as z/secure.

Keith

On 31 Aug 2022, at 13:09, Carmen Vitullo <petevi...@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks for that info Art, My teammate is not real familiar  with SHOP Z and 
the options available.

she told me trying to order as CBPDO gave her an error, I'll work with her some 
more to see why

again thanks

Carmen

On 8/31/2022 4:59 AM, Art Gutowski wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:01:53 -0500, Carmen Vitullo <petevi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires
z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's
having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now,
build JCL and submit JCL.

my case I opened was initially on the errors we were seeing on the
submit errors, that was not addressed, just the easy stuff, now I have
to recreate the issue again and make sure I have the correct error
message for support. typical of z/osmf support; my first case I opened
for z/osmf issues was open and not resolved for 364 days, so, so far I'm
ahead of the game I support

Carmen
I installed zSecure 2.5 with CBPDO and SMP/E using ISPF just fine.  No issues.  
CBPDO is available for products, and for z/OS itself, and as far as I'm aware, 
no timeline has been announced for phasing it out.  If you like z/OSMF, use it; 
if you prefer ISPF and SMP/E, use CBPDO...it's really not that difficult.

Art Gutowski
Mainframe Engineer
Huntington National Bank
arthur.gutow...@huntington.com

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