okay, thanks for the clarification

Carmen

On 8/30/2022 9:01 AM, rpinion865 wrote:
IBM sends, usually twice a year, DASD images with every conceivable z/OS 
software component.  It's load and go, or should I say load and IPL.  It's 
IBM's idea of a z/OS system.




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On Tuesday, August 30th, 2022 at 9:57 AM, Carmen Vitullo <petevi...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


the ADCD approach? I'm not familiar with that terminology, is that the
billable service from IBM that build your environment + product and you
just restore that environment? , I worked in state government where IBM
lead the Y2K project for us and that's how we receive the required OS
and products to support Y2K, also I was part of an IBM Global Services
team that supported many clients, and IIRC used that mechanism to
upgrade their systems. that long response said, sorry, that's not an
option for us right now.

what I struggle with is exactly what you have described

I am concerned that z/OSMF is running on a prod LPAR, and the product
we're trying to upgrade is required to be upgraded before I can apply
and test the RSU maint I have received and the required PTF I need is
contained in that maint level.

I'm asking support for a work around to this issue, and asking for a
resolution to my submit failure issue.

Carmen

On 8/30/2022 8:42 AM, Colin Paice wrote:

I used to have to struggle with IBM installation manager - a package for
installing software on midrange machines.
I remember being in a hotel trying to download a fix - but Installation
Manager(IM) decided it needed to upgrade itself before doing anything. It
took over 6 hours to download the new version of the Installation manager,
and another 2 hours to download the fix I needed! ( I had to set my alarm
for 3 am, and 5 am to click "go" on the install)

IBM's argument was you only need to learn one interface (IM) to install
software ( across Windows and Unix) - not realising I needed to know
Windows, Unix AND IBM's IM.

z/OSMF is inevitable - Question: where are the skills of today? Answer:
Java.

Personally I would follow the ADCD approach and download a volume of
product libraries and its SMP/E environment (and never use the SMP/E
environment)

Colin

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