True enough - and one more thing is that while IBM supports member generations, 
they DO NOT support them via JCL, dynamic allocation, or the majority of their 
utilities/tools. And don't even try to find them in zExplorer, ZOWE, or ZOAU 
(or is it ZAOU?).


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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Jay 
Maynard
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 9:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Two related member generation questions

SMP used to do this, and ISTR SMP/E does as well.

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 9:34 AM Schmitt, Michael <michael.schm...@dxc.com>
wrote:

> And IMS. MFS Formats have non-display and lower-case letters in the 
> member names.
>
> Such as:
>
> ."wACOV0
> 07ACCDEF
> 2F613650
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
> Behalf Of Steve Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 8:19 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Two related member generation questions
>
> I may not have edited these posts correctly for this, but, I thought I 
> should point out that an IBM product does create "illegal" (per JCL) 
> member names. And that would be Netview.
>
> In years gone by I had seen member names that were really "odd"
> and found out that it was Netview that was creating them.
>
> So yes, an assembler programmer could do this and have done this, 
> because it has been done.
>
> Steve Thompson
>
> On 5/30/2023 12:11 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> >
> > Can't an Assembler programmer using STOW create PDS members with 
> > names beginning with '+', '-', '0', 'π', ... just about anything?  I 
> > don't
> believe it's proper
> > for higher layers such as JCL to introduce syntactic restrictions
> harsher than
> > those of core layers.  The only member name prohibited is 8X'FF',
> indicaring
> > the end of a PDS directory.
> >
> > How do LM services accessible, e.g. through REXX support member
> "generations"?
> >
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