How can Bombastic Bill have worked all those years and never worked in a
RACF shop? VSE shops never had RACF, however, RACF has had the Lion's share
for years.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 5:32 AM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

> Yes, assemblers came first, but <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laning_and_Zierler_system> was well before
> FORTRAN. I' not sure whether to cite the earlier <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plankalk%C3%BCl>, as it was never
> implemented.
>
>
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>
> Ok ... not quire correct, but:
> the first ASSEMBLER languages go back to the years 1947 to 1951, if my
> sources are right;
> there was some sort of ASSEMBLER for the 701 (which was available in
> 1953, IIRC).
> The first HLL was Fortran, IMO, which should be 1956 ca.
> So there are some years in the 1950 time frame, where ASSEMBLER was the
> only choice;
> that's what I am talking about.
> IIRC, in the first years of HLLs, there were some debates that HLLs are
> not usable because of
> the poor code the compilers generated at that time. This was true even
> in the 1960s for the
> first versions of PL/1.
> Kind regards
> Bernd
>
>
> Am 06.09.2023 um 17:55 schrieb Seymour J Metz:
> >> because in the 1950s and 1960s,
> >> it was the only language we had.
> > ?
> >
> > COBOL
> > COMIT
> > FACT
> > FARGO
> > FORTRAN
> > IPL-V
> > LISP
> > PL/I
> > RPG
> > SNOBOL
> >
> >
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