To be honest, I have no idea. I would guess the multi-function options > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 6:07 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [Very much off-topic] Re: AI is the real deal. > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > Dedicated fax machines, combo printer/scanner/fax or wokstations with fax > modems? > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furld > efense.com%2Fv3%2F__http%3A%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F*smetz3__%3 > Bfg!!JmPEgBY0HMszNaDT!vtEIyO7q3_40wDYVUmS8Oxv- > 9SE_HXWFBQARve4T98ajMlwwnavpy1WKQnIPd9DNKjONNwxpVjHLnA%24 > &data=05%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40WSU.EDU%7C32f0263c4f6a4b23380e08dc > 34141fad%7Cb52be471f7f147b4a8790c799bb53db5%7C0%7C0%7C63844 > 2508281868496%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAi > LCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sd > ata=jFC%2FHrP8BsuorMyG5WqE5QoCzORFa2Fg5reP%2FibT8UQ%3D&reserv > ed=0 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on > behalf of Gibney, Dave <000003b5261cfd78-dmarc- > requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 7:29 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [Very much off-topic] Re: AI is the real deal. > > Fax machines are still heavily used un medical and legal areas > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > > Behalf Of zMan > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 4:06 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: [Very much off-topic] Re: AI is the real deal. > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > > > The FAX machine's impact wasn't exactly tiny. Short-lived, yes. > > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:04 PM Dave Beagle < 00000525eaef6620-dmarc- > > requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > Picking on Krugman is typical of the right. But, that’s not exactly > > > what he said. 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Who remembers the failed 5-year > > > predictions for, e.g., controlled fusion, human level machine translation? > > > > > > I expect it to eventually happen, but as for when, Hypotheses non > > > fingo < > > > > > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furld > > efense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fsecure- > web.cisco.com%2F1CieSMPaZwvAT > > Ho3u6SeKwdTSLYWjrgzgHMj5G0cgeCU6OwRX- > tYZ0dZywGFgIYxZ06npUpn5PdldAbPxon > > dPyUXiudafJL2BDmpgDe6rIweSl28zsyyk2d3NIj-xPIx6hsP1J7Opb2qapLGK- > iUSprkR > > mplH8sgKkH2Fa_GDPo3s5-6nMxBfty_xI1VeBOk3eZA2jCA0T- > lEW75Uwsp9gT2BVKTGHZ > > > Rysd2x6abN4KAFeZTovDz9zsB5F5HQrDt9snuZo7CYjPBb6oBbE3fHDt6B9Abf > d4xRxhiX > > U5O_bnWnTmtJPekKqEj5EtxQBmN-0SFI7HoHDQAVGFH- > ZEfBvmvGMg6Y97kUewFyxBcTIy > > 8QDI833P3l0MKy3q3xE1_tkY9JoCGfDvLIb0ULhWAPS-s9z2pDcGcO2WS- > 9Q6JrVg%2Fht > > > tps*3A*2F*2Fnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com*2F*3Furl*3Dhttps*2 > 5 > > > 3A*252F*252Furld__%3BJSUlJSUlJSUl!!JmPEgBY0HMszNaDT!vtEIyO7q3_40 > wDYVUm > > S8Oxv- > 9SE_HXWFBQARve4T98ajMlwwnavpy1WKQnIPd9DNKjONNwyRlsIiJg%24&d > ata=0 > > > 5%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40WSU.EDU%7C32f0263c4f6a4b23380e08dc34141fa > d%7Cb52be47 > > > 1f7f147b4a8790c799bb53db5%7C0%7C0%7C638442508281884363%7CU > nknown%7CTWF > > > pbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJX > VCI6M > > > n0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HXq0AYLzqLrY7gfXEbN%2FjOxKfGJGT%2F > of0k%2FRq4N > > %2BX0o%3D&reserved=0 > > > efense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHypo > > > theses_non_fingo__%3B!!JmPEgBY0HMszNaDT!pUVU8USJPSqXuREx80y0bQ > > > 5MR7v2G271msUDJVyimwcA0x0oiPePyvVMbEFmXvp0KkVgyslQgBkUcCIgOi > > > etLWEjpRKs5ifv%24&data=05%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40WSU.EDU%7Ce292b02 > > > ecab547644c8d08dc34034e72%7Cb52be471f7f147b4a8790c799bb53db5 > > > %7C0%7C0%7C638442436003413344%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey > > > JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D > > > %7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=I69SwWniPcqnRRWi98MnELuNXk1a6kYh%2B1kY > > H9wRX2g%3D&reserved=0 >. > > > > > > On the flip side, hand optimization for pipelined machines is labor > > > intensive and fragile; a compiler with an ARCHLVL parameter is > > > better suited for the job. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > -- > > zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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