And all it will take is one solar flare like the one in 1859 (Carrington event) 
to take the world back to pre-electricity days

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2012/detecting-the-perfect-solar-storm/#:~:text=If%20a%20massive%20storm%20like,U.S.%20National%20Academy%20of%20Sciences.

Michael

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, at 8:06 PM,Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Dedicated fax machines, combo printer/scanner/fax or wokstations with 
> fax modems?
>
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on 
> behalf of Gibney, Dave <000003b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 7:29 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [Very much off-topic] Re: AI is the real deal.
>
> Fax machines are still heavily used un medical and legal areas
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
>> Behalf Of zMan
>> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 4:06 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [Very much off-topic] Re: AI is the real deal.
>>
>> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>>
>> The FAX machine's impact wasn't exactly tiny. Short-lived, yes.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:04 PM Dave Beagle < 00000525eaef6620-dmarc-
>> requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Picking on Krugman is typical of the right. But, that’s not exactly
>> > what he said. Here’s the context.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1CieSMPaZwvATHo3u6SeKwdTSLYWjrgzgHMj5G0cgeCU6OwRX-tYZ0dZywGFgIYxZ06npUpn5PdldAbPxondPyUXiudafJL2BDmpgDe6rIweSl28zsyyk2d3NIj-xPIx6hsP1J7Opb2qapLGK-iUSprkRmplH8sgKkH2Fa_GDPo3s5-6nMxBfty_xI1VeBOk3eZA2jCA0T-lEW75Uwsp9gT2BVKTGHZRysd2x6abN4KAFeZTovDz9zsB5F5HQrDt9snuZo7CYjPBb6oBbE3fHDt6B9Abfd4xRxhiXU5O_bnWnTmtJPekKqEj5EtxQBmN-0SFI7HoHDQAVGFH-ZEfBvmvGMg6Y97kUewFyxBcTIy8QDI833P3l0MKy3q3xE1_tkY9JoCGfDvLIb0ULhWAPS-s9z2pDcGcO2WS-9Q6JrVg/https%3A%2F%2Fnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Furld
>> >
>> efense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fpau
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thursday, February 22, 2024, 5:12 PM, Bob Bridges <
>> > 00000587168ababf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Speaking of old predictions:  /* By 2005 or so, it will be clear that
>> > the Internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax
>> > machine's.  -Paul Krugman, Nobel-prize-winning economist in 1998 */
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
>> > Behalf Of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 16:58
>> >
>> > Sorry, the date has been truncated on the left.
>> > That should be 11994.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
>> > Behalf Of Allan Staller
>> > Sent: 22 February 2024 19:42
>> >
>> > The last mainframe will be turned off in 1994 - Gartner Group
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
>> > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 11:11 AM
>> >
>> > A 5-year prediction is generally safe, because in 5 years people will
>> > have forgotten the predictions. Who remembers the failed 5-year
>> > predictions for, e.g., controlled fusion, human level machine translation?
>> >
>> > I expect it to eventually happen, but as for when, Hypotheses non
>> > fingo <
>> >
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>> >
>> > On the flip side, hand optimization for pipelined machines is labor
>> > intensive and fragile; a compiler with an ARCHLVL parameter is better
>> > suited for the job.
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