Yep. Magnetic fields moving over power lines generating massive amounts of current. https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/44957/20230721/quebec-blackout-1989-lessons-geomagnetic-storm-shocked-entire-nation.htm
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 9:08 PM Michael Oujesky <reflect...@oujesky.net> wrote: > > And all it will take is one solar flare like the one in 1859 (Carrington > event) to take the world back to pre-electricity days > > https://www.bu.edu/articles/2012/detecting-the-perfect-solar-storm/#:~:text=If%20a%20massive%20storm%20like,U.S.%20National%20Academy%20of%20Sciences. > > Michael > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, at 8:06 PM,Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Dedicated fax machines, combo printer/scanner/fax or wokstations with > > fax modems? > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on > > behalf of Gibney, Dave <000003b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 7:29 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: [Very much off-topic] Re: AI is the real deal. > > > > Fax machines are still heavily used un medical and legal areas > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > >> Behalf Of zMan > >> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 4:06 PM > >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >> Subject: Re: [Very much off-topic] Re: AI is the real deal. > >> > >> [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > >> > >> The FAX machine's impact wasn't exactly tiny. Short-lived, yes. > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:04 PM Dave Beagle < 00000525eaef6620-dmarc- > >> requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >> > >> > Picking on Krugman is typical of the right. But, that’s not exactly > >> > what he said. 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Who remembers the failed 5-year > >> > predictions for, e.g., controlled fusion, human level machine > >> > translation? > >> > > >> > I expect it to eventually happen, but as for when, Hypotheses non > >> > fingo < > >> > > >> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1CieSMPaZwvATHo3u6SeKwdTSLYWjrgzgHMj5G0cgeCU6OwRX-tYZ0dZywGFgIYxZ06npUpn5PdldAbPxondPyUXiudafJL2BDmpgDe6rIweSl28zsyyk2d3NIj-xPIx6hsP1J7Opb2qapLGK-iUSprkRmplH8sgKkH2Fa_GDPo3s5-6nMxBfty_xI1VeBOk3eZA2jCA0T-lEW75Uwsp9gT2BVKTGHZRysd2x6abN4KAFeZTovDz9zsB5F5HQrDt9snuZo7CYjPBb6oBbE3fHDt6B9Abfd4xRxhiXU5O_bnWnTmtJPekKqEj5EtxQBmN-0SFI7HoHDQAVGFH-ZEfBvmvGMg6Y97kUewFyxBcTIy8QDI833P3l0MKy3q3xE1_tkY9JoCGfDvLIb0ULhWAPS-s9z2pDcGcO2WS-9Q6JrVg/https%3A%2F%2Fnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Furld > >> efense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHypo > >> theses_non_fingo__%3B!!JmPEgBY0HMszNaDT!pUVU8USJPSqXuREx80y0bQ > >> 5MR7v2G271msUDJVyimwcA0x0oiPePyvVMbEFmXvp0KkVgyslQgBkUcCIgOi > >> etLWEjpRKs5ifv%24&data=05%7C02%7CGIBNEY%40WSU.EDU%7Ce292b02 > >> ecab547644c8d08dc34034e72%7Cb52be471f7f147b4a8790c799bb53db5 > >> %7C0%7C0%7C638442436003413344%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey > >> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D > >> %7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=I69SwWniPcqnRRWi98MnELuNXk1a6kYh%2B1kY > >> H9wRX2g%3D&reserved=0 >. > >> > > >> > On the flip side, hand optimization for pipelined machines is labor > >> > intensive and fragile; a compiler with an ARCHLVL parameter is better > >> > suited for the job. > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > >> > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > >> > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > >> to > >> lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
