I do run into this, quite a bit. I usually update the SMPWRK datasets to have a primary of 3000 cylinders and secondary of at least 1500 and they are not in a dedicated storage group.
For these large ptf's, I will go down to applying at the FORFMID level. Doing this allows me to get those ptf's installed successfully, as it only applies the highest level ptf, that supercedes all others. The challenge with these large ptf's is that they are large due to the nature of how IBM delivers java, websphere liberty, etc, fixes, as they are tar/pax of the entire component, which matches up to how these items are delivered on the open systems side. While this causes the "fun" of the smpwrk6 size being needed, if IBM were to break it down to individual components for install, there would be thousands of objects, potentially, for fixes, and the opportunity to miss a critical item goes up exponentially. I'll let IBM provide a definitive answer on the RELFILE question, however, I don't think PTF's can use RELFILE. Only FMID's will load in as RELFILES, to the best of my knowledge. Peter On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 12:58:15 -0500, Jon Perryman <[email protected]> wrote: >On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 23:44:05 -0700, Dave Gibney <[email protected]> >wrote: > >>Some years ago, I started using a full Mod-9 for SMPWRK6. > >Was this solving the symptom instead of the problem? > >The OP showed us SMPWRK6 DSNTYPE=LIBRARY which implies the library is in the >PTF instead of a RELFILE. PTF's have LRECL=80 and the library is not in >library format and will use SMPWRK to make it a library. If it were a RELFILE, >then RECEIVE would have created a library directly thus eliminating the need >for SMPWRK6. > >It doesn't hurt to ask IBM for a solution. The solution may be as simple as >asking that product deliver PTF's as RELFILES instead of inline PTF. Only IBM >knows if this problem can be solved with RELFILE. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
