Jon,

I would be interested in why you think it is insane.

40 years ago I built and packaged CICS in SMP format (before SMP/E) so I
understand the process.
In the last 20 years (before I retired) I could get a dump of product
libraries and restore them on my system, so the basic process works.
If I wanted the latest and greatest fixes, I would take a copy of the
Consolidated Service Test libraries and copy them to my machine.
So in my view - the process works.

If you want an urgent fix you could install the above system (so get the
pre-reqs) and then install the fix with the provided SMP/E environment.

Initially people would have to change the way they work, but I think it
would save time in the long run.
To me, installing fixes is a chore rather than interesting, and if we can
improve the process everyone wins.

Do you have any suggestions as to how IBM could improve the process?


Colin


On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 at 18:17, Jon Perryman <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 13:56:21 +0100, Colin Paice <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I think a big step forward would be to download a logical volume per
> product.
> >So we would get dumps of the systems tested (every month) by CST in Pok
> >with the latest approved fixes on it.
> >
> >This seems an easy solution for IBM to implement, and easy for customers.
>
> This is an insane idea that will never happen.
>
> Someone asked "why SMP/e" over a year ago without any answers. SMP/e is
> still misunderstood. Is there anyone who is still interested in "why SMP/e"?
>
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