Okay, I am going to retract what I have said so far.  I think I am seeing
the OP question.

The functions in ISMF were manually entered via the panels for Storage
Class, Data Class, and Management class.

The Source PDS is strictly for the ACS routines that assign those
definitions as needed.

Currently - I do not know of a way to "EXPORT" the Classes that were
manually defined with the Panels and put them in a "PDS/FILE" to be able to
"IMPORT" them to another system SCDS dataset.

The only process I am familiar with is to DUMP/RESTORE the SCDS you like and
then activate it on the new LPAR.

I am not sure if you could use IDCAMs to EXPORT the current SCDS and then
IMPORT that file into a new SCDS dataset.




Lizette


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Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: New LPAR build - Storage activities - SMS/ACS Functionality

You need the SOURCE ACS Routines dataset and then TEST/TRANSLATE/ACTIVATE.

There is no "COPY" function in ISMF from the DATACLASS, MANAGEMENT CLASS,
STORAGE CLASS Panels.

The information you see in those panels are taken from the SCDS dataset
(which is actually in storage/memory for SMS)

Lizette


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Behalf Of Raju Reddy
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:40 AM
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Subject: Re: New LPAR build - Storage activities - SMS/ACS Functionality

Kees,

I am sure my question was confusing...!!!

To cut it really short... Let's forget SCDS and PDS member which contains
ACS routines..

Real question is:-

ISPF---> ISMF--->4 Data Class--->DATA CLASS APPLICATION SELECTION
ISPF---> ISMF--->--->DATA
CLASS LIST
So... here at 'DATA CLASS LIST' you see number of DATACLAS NAMEs like one of
KSDS, ESDS, MULTIVOL etc etc... each with different
attributes(RECORG,RECFM,LRECL etc etc)

I would like to know if I can copy these Dataclass names from other LPAR's
ISMF to Target LPARs ISMF with same attributes.

This is just to avoid me defining new Dataclass names by entering the
details manually and reduce time.

I hope this gives a clear picture of my query.


Thanks.


Cheers,
Raju


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
<kees.verno...@klm.com>wrote:

> There is some confusion here:
> are we talking about dataclas/mgmtclas/storclas definitions? They are 
> in the SCDS.
> Or are we talking about the ACS routines? Their sources are in a PDS, 
> which you can also transfer to the new LPAR.
>
> Kees.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 14:06
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: New LPAR build - Storage activities - SMS/ACS 
> Functionality
>
> The classes (Data, Management, etc...) are typically in a PDS dataset 
> that can be easily copied from one place to another.
>
> You would then use ISMF to Translate and then ACTIVATE.  The Translate 
> function would place then in the SCDS or ACDS depending on your 
> procedures.
> The Activate then makes them available.  What you see in ISMF is the 
> ACTIVATEd information.
>
> So, all you need to do is talk to your storage administrator who 
> should know what process is used to update your SCDS/ACDS VSAM 
> datasets for the classes.
>
> Every shop has a unique way of naming the SOURCE PDS dataset names.
>
>
> Lizette
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Raju Reddy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 3:44 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: New LPAR build - Storage activities - SMS/ACS 
> Functionality
>
> All,
>
> I am not sure if first email was confusing.
>
> To give clear picture, I have copied SCDS from the model LPAR and 
> activated it. They are datasets and can be copied quite easily.
>
> What I want is - Can I copy ISPF Class names and their attributes from 
> the Model LPAR.
>
> Ex: Highlighted class name attributes. I don't want to define 
> individual class name because it is time consuming.
> I am exploring options to copy them.
>
> MGMTCLAS EXPIRE     EXPIRE        RET    PARTIAL
> NAME       NON-USAGE  DATE/DAYS    LIMIT   RELEASE
> --(2)---         ---(3)---  ---(4)----  --(5)--  ----(6)-
> *#0DTQP*          94     NOLIMIT  NOLIMIT  YES
> *#0DWYP*         370     NOLIMIT  NOLIMIT  YES
> *#0NDQP*          94     NOLIMIT  NOLIMIT  YES
> *#0NNN#*     NOLIMIT     NOLIMIT  NOLIMIT  NO
> *#0NNT#*           3     NOLIMIT  NOLIMIT  NO
> *#0NNTP*           3     NOLIMIT  NOLIMIT  YES
> *#0NNW#*          10     NOLIMIT  NOLIMIT  NO
> *#2DTQP*          94     NOLIMIT  NOLIMIT  YES
> *#2DWN#*     NOLIMIT     NOLIMIT  NOLIMIT  NO
>
> and
>
> DATACLAS
> NAME            RECORG
> --(2)---               -(3)--
> *ESDS*              ES
> *KSDS*              KS
> *KSDSM*           KS
> *KSDSMEA    *  KS
> *KSDSTRIP    * KS
> *LSDS*             LS
> *MULTIVOL     * --
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Raj
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < 
> elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:
>
> > Vernooij, CP wrote:
> >
> > >You can copy the SCDS from the model LPAR to the new LPAR, 
> > >customize it
> > and activate it.
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this aspect about copying/activating SCDS 
> > content. I [wrongly] a$$umed the OP SCDS is already in place because 
> > he said his SMS is up and running.
> >
> > Groete / Greetings
> > Elardus Engelbrecht
> >

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