Skip, I totally agree, grew up in Indiana , saw similar situations. I think its a bit generational...if there is such a word. When you have to work hard for what you have, there is a sense of appreciation.
Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com/ On Monday, November 4, 2013 11:40 AM, Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com> wrote: I happen to have some personal knowledge about the shortage of farmers. Two of my uncles owned their own farms in southern Idaho. They didn't grow rich, but they supported their families in very comfortable style. They both had kids including one boy each. None of the kids in either family had any interest in farming. Both boys became engineers. The farms were eventually sold with proceeds going--where else?--to the kids. It was not about training. Farmers' kids--especially boys--get saturation training as they grow up. It's about desire. In the words of the esteemed Yogi Berra: "If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Steve Comstock <st...@trainersfriend.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 11/04/2013 08:03 AM Subject: Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 11/4/2013 8:58 AM, George Rodriguez wrote: > That's not 100% true... > > "Schools aren't training enough mainfarmers." > > There's a program in North Carolina that's teaching TSO, Cobol, JCL, etc... > and graduates are being hired by businesses that are using mainframe > computer systems. You missed the pun: 'mainfarmers', not 'mainframers' ~~~~~~~ -Steve Comstock > > We in south Florida were thinking of offering the same programs... > > > *George Rodriguez* > *Specialist II - IT Solutions* > *IT Enterprise Applications* > *PX - 47652* > *(561) 357-7652 (office)* > *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* > *School District of Palm Beach County* > *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* > *Room B-251* > *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* > *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Eight Consecutive Years* > > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Dave Salt <ds...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Schools aren't training enough mainfarmers. ;-) >> >> Dave Salt >> >> SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! >> >> http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html >> >> >>> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 02:41:39 -0600 >>> From: elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za >>> Subject: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>> >>> News for you aging Sysprogs... :-) >>> >>> It is not the mainframers who is aging while struggling to get new young >> guys/gals into mainframes. >>> >>> The farmers are also struggling here with this aging thing in South >> Africa and United States. >>> >>> Now read up those links before you retire! ;-) >>> >>> >> http://www.agriculture.com/news/business/is-agriculture-aging-too-quickly_5-ar34746 >>> >>> http://www.cnbc.com/id/101087391 >>> >>> etc. Happy reading. >>> >>> Groete / Greetings >>> Elardus Engelbrecht ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
