Steve -
Thanks for the pointer. Curiously I have already been contacted by a company
offering courses in the UK, much to my surprise. I thought my colleague
might have to go to India!

But thanks anyway.

-Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Steve Comstock
Sent: 05 November 2013 21:09
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

On 11/5/2013 12:51 AM, Robin Atwood wrote:
> Diverting the thread a tad, does anyone know where you can do an HLASM 
> course? My young colleague wants to be inducted into the mysteries of 
> the ancient craft and we found various IBM courses (see below) but 
> none of them are currently being offered. Of course, various outfits 
> are happy to come to your shop and give one-on-one instruction, but HR 
> won't wear the expense of that.


Well, there may be a middle way ...

If you have someone who can mentor your colleague, perhaps you could
purchase our course materials and have him or her take these courses as
mentored self-study.

This allows the student to go at their own pace. And it allows your
organization to use the materials to teach other students later at no
additional charge.

With our going out of business sale in full swing, you can purchase our four
main Assembler courses for USD 2600 (actually, if you buy them all at the
same time the price is just USD 2210).

Of course, the student may need an ISPF course and / or a JCL course at some
time in the process: it's not clear what they already know.

The price is just USD 200 per course day to purchase any of our courses in
the sale; and if you buy ten or more days at one time you get an additional
15% off.

These are complete training kits: lecture version, handout version, setup
notes, instructor notes, data for lab files.


You can use this page as a price calculator:

   http://www.trainersfriend.com/SpecialSale/LicenseOrderForm.html

plug in various options and it shows you the price; then instead of placing
an order (the 'Submit' button), you can cancel the order (the 'Cancel'
button) or just leave the page.


Tons of detail are available here:

   http://www.trainersfriend.com/SpecialSale/


So a little different perspective that might help you meet your need.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock, founder
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.


>
> ES10AGB
> http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/gb/en?page
> Type=c
> ourse_description&courseCode=ES10AGB
> ES34GB
> http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/gb/en?page
> Type=c
> ourse_description&courseCode=ES34GB
> ES35GB
> http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/gb/en?page
> Type=c
> ourse_description&courseCode=ES35GB
>
> He is in the UK but travel would not be a problem. Any suggestions 
> gratefully received!
>
> Thanks
> -Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Clark Morris
> Sent: 05 November 2013 10:15
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
>
> On 4 Nov 2013 11:49:17 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>
>> They said "enough" -- just because some are doesn't mean there's
"enough"!
>
> Somehow I got into the field with only 1 course in Numerical Analysis 
> and Programming for Digital Computers (2 semesters) in 1961 and 1 
> course in Symbolic Logic.  I was lucky that my company sent me to 
> several IBM course and from 1977 to 1990 to SHARE.  Should Colleges 
> and Universities be teaching vendor specific operating systems? Should 
> they be teaching the basic concepts of operating systems and of security?
>
> Clark Morris
>
>
>> -
>> Ted MacNEIL
>> eamacn...@yahoo.ca
>> Twitter: @TedMacNEIL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:         George Rodriguez <george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org>
>> Sender:       IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
>> Date:         Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:58:04
>> To: <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
>> Reply-To:     IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
>>
>> That's not 100% true...
>>
>> "Schools aren't training enough mainfarmers."
>>
>> There's a program in North Carolina that's teaching TSO, Cobol, JCL,
etc...
>> and graduates are being hired by businesses that are using mainframe 
>> computer systems.
>>
>> We in south Florida were thinking of offering the same programs...
>>
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