John,

Like Charles said, there two sides,I'm keep wondering why it was done. Was
it a hack or a statement of some sort. There's usually a reason for a
action..

Scott

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote:

> Personally, it makes me want to go out and buy several of their cars. (I
> believe that the EPA needs to be reigned in.)
>
> And for all those who say "but it's cheating", think about your driving
> habits. Many of you will drive 80mph down a 70mph interstate knowing the
> odds that a cop will stop you is low. You factor in the chances of getting
> caught and decide that it's worth the risk. Someone at Volkswagen did a
> similar risk assessment. (Personally, I think it was a young programmer who
> had a little bit of hacker in him.)
>
> Tony Thigpen
>
> Charles Mills wrote on 09/22/2015 09:06 AM:
>
>> Volkswagen has now had a chance to tell the other side of the story -- and
>> there does not seem to be one. I find this story utterly incredible. That
>> a
>> Worldcom or an Enron or a Madoff would "improve" the books -- I find that
>> sadly typical of human nature. But that a publicly-traded, global company
>> would apparently order a team of programmers to design and write software
>> intended to deceive regulators and despoil the environment -- I find that
>> utterly incredible. Volkwagen's stock is down 40% if I understand the news
>> reports correctly. I wonder if they can -- I wonder if they should --
>> survive this.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Subject: Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control
>> Systems
>>
>> I agree that the story as presented in the initial reports is pretty
>> damning. I would like to hear "the other side of the story." I think there
>> is at least some possibility that the intent of the programming was not
>> malicious and that either it has the unintended side effect that the EPA
>> has
>> alleged, or possibly that the EPA misinterpreted it altogether.
>> Overzealous
>> regulation and prosecution is not unprecedented nor unheard-of.
>>
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