"#3) So once you've figured you need to download the message definitions, the next thing you need to know is to which component a particular message belongs. Quick... does anybody know what IEF540I belongs to? 'Cause apparently I don't. I've downloaded a bunch, and while other messages are now findable, the IEF messages aren't. (At least not yet.)"
I am doing this with my Android Phone: In the area where you typed in the "IEF540I" and pressed "GO" you will have under the search box "Local More" Press the "More" side and it will give you the list of message sets that it thinks it is in. I did the IEF540I after I had already downloaded the z/OS MVS 1.13 set and it did not find it, but it presented me with the z/OS MVS 2.1 & 2.2 options, so I downloaded the 2.2 version and it gave me the message info. Is the ASMA033I message correct? Could it be ASM033I (without the second A) Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Cole Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LOOKAT gone? - Doc Buddy? Seriously? >There is a phone app called IBM Doc buddy. Try it, you might like it. Tried it. Don't much like it at all! Ok, I've just now downloaded and installed Doc Buddy (Android version). And the best I can say about it is, whoever designed the UI really didn't put much effort into it. I mean seriously, doesn't IBM put these things out for real world testing first? Then do they even listen to the feedback??? #1) So I installed the app, and of course the very first thing I did was type in some message ids. Nothing too esoteric. just basic ancient stuff like, I don't know, do you think it'd be able to find IEF450I??? Nope... ASMA033I? Nope... Anything? Nope nope nopity nope! #2) It turns out you then have to download... I don't know what IBM calls them... I'll just call them "message sets". These are organized by component. But there's no mention of this, no startup tips, tricks or just general heads-up is put in front of you.. Nothing. You install the app, and you're on your own. [Pro-tip: Go to the "Component" page.] #3) So once you've figured you need to download the message definitions, the next thing you need to know is to which component a particular message belongs. Quick... does anybody know what IEF540I belongs to? 'Cause apparently I don't. I've downloaded a bunch, and while other messages are now findable, the IEF messages aren't. (At least not yet.) #4) Maybe that message set hasn't downloaded yet. It's hard to tell because there is no status display. The individual messages sets are hidden in dropdowns that have the very annoying habit of going back into hiding on you rather quickly... #5) And that's another thing. The components list keeps jumping around on you because dropdowns that you've opened up spontaneously close causing the page to jump up, jump down, jump whatever. Come on guys! Can't you stabilize a display long enough for somebody to touch a button???? #6) Oh and the msgid entry field... So you've got your keyboard open and you're typing away, and you decide to clear the entire field. But when you do so, Boom! the keyboard disappears on you. Why???? #7) Googling a msgid turns out to be just plain easier. I have not tried very many IBM apps, but so far every one I've tried feels like it's been written by amateurs! My kid grandson can do better than this! Ok, I've got the IEFxxx messages now. They were where they belonged, it just took a long time for the z/OS MVS messages set to download. Good thing I've got a nice fat pipe. But I still don't have the ASMAxxx messages yet. They're apparently not in the z/OS MVS component, and I don't see an HLASM component available. Really? Dave Cole ColeSoft Marketing 414 Third Street, NE Charlottesville, VA 22902 EADDRESS: dbc...@colesoft.com Home page: www.colesoft.com LinkedIn: www.xdc.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/colesoftware YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/colesoftware At 12/2/2016 02:29 PM, Jim Mulder wrote: > > >have they replaced it with anything? > > > > There is a phone app called IBM Doc buddy. Try it, you might like it. > > > The LOOKAT web site says: ><quote> >LookAt is no longer supported. This site is offered for use "as is" >until z/OS V1R13 goes out of service later this year. >New: IBM Doc Buddy is a Smartphone app that is available for iPhone in >iTunes and for Android in Google Play With IBM Doc Buddy, you download >only the message information that you need. IBM Doc Buddy makes it easy >to lookup message information wherever you are without the need for an >Internet connection. ><endquote> >1. I don't have an iPhone or Android. > >2. If I need to look up a message, it is because I am > seeing that message via an Internet connection. I never > need to look up message information when I don't have > an Internet connection. And since then I am already > sitting in front of a workstation with a real keyboard > and mouse and dual 27 inch monitors, that is what I want > to use to look up message information, not a Smartphone > with a small screen and a small simulated keyboard. >Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. >Poughkeepsie NY > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
