Hi Charles,

     I think you hit it on the head.

     I've been in IT for 40+ years, 25+ with the same company.  

     My skills now are much different than they were when I started.  Else, I 
wouldn't still be here!

     I started as a DASD Administrator - to get my foot in the door.  Then 
SysProg.  Then AS/400 SysAdmin - 3 times.  Then linux, unix (Solaris, HP-UX) 
SysAdmin, VMware Admin, etc....

     Now, AWS training!   All while still doing z/OS SysProg work.

     It's a whole different world these days.  Staying relevant is the way to 
stay employed, at least in my case.

     Just my $0.02USD worth.

     Happy Friday, everyone!

BobL

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Charles Mills
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 12:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Job Loyalty [ EXTERNAL ]

> "No company will pay you as much to STAY as another will pay you to GO"

As an entrepreneur interested in employee retention I gave this a lot of 
thought. Why should this be? After all, one would think you should be more 
valuable where you already are: you're all trained, there is no need for a 
reference check, your co-workers are used to working with you, etc., etc.

I decided it was a management failure -- and even more a co-worker failure -- 
to see an employee as s/he could be rather than as s/he was when s/he was 
hired. The interviewer sees you as you are today and where you could be in a 
couple of years; your boss, and especially your co-workers, remember that 
newbie doofus they hired five years ago.

I resolved to do better, to try to see people as they could be. I would like to 
think I had some success.

For a small company, as I had, if you do things correctly you have the opposite 
problem. A small company can sustain growth of 30% or so a year fairly readily, 
and even higher when you are tiny. Most employees do not grow that fast: they 
aren't 30% better every year. So you don't have a problem with employees 
outgrowing their jobs; you have a problem of job requirements outpacing 
employees. You start out billing $500K/year and hire a clerk to handle the 
invoicing. With 30% compounded growth, five years later you are a two million 
dollar company. That clerk has probably not grown in five years into an 
accountant suitable for a two million dollar company. Yes, you can train 
people, but not very fast. 9 out of 10 employees do not like to be pushed out 
of their comfort zones.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John Mattson
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 9:30 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Job Loyalty

     Loyalty is dead in the workplace.  Companies will dump you in a flash 
unless they have an immediate need, and employees should be ready to take any 
better offer which comes along. I coined a phrase many years ago "No company 
will pay you as much to STAY as another will pay you to GO".

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