John, No problemo, I live in PA about an hour from Philly. What part of Canada are you in?
Scott On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 3:34 PM John Abell < john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Thanks for the plug for Canada. Where are you located? > > > > Cheers, > > John T. Abell > > Tel: 800-295-7608 Option 4 > > President > > International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 > > E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com > > Fax: 800-295-7609 > > > > International: 1-416-593-5579 > > > > > > International Software Products > > www.ispinfo.com > > > > This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole > use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution > or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended > > recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), > please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this > message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, > > tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive > emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, > interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of scott Ford > > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:52 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian". > > > > John, > > > > My career is similar , unit record equip then 360/40 DOS/VS/POWER, the > > 360/40 had MFCM and I learned Assembler on a 360/20, of course I wasn't in > your wonderful country, I always liked Canada. > > > > Scott > > > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:23 AM John Abell < > john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> wrote: > > > > > I started at IBM in Toronto in August 1964. 1401's, a 1440, a 1460, a > > > 7044, an 1130 and all the unit record equipment you could want except > > > 403s and 407s, We also had Tape-to-Tape data flow over a phone line > > > in the evenings between Montreal and Toronto and Vancouver and Toronto > > > using 200BPI horizontal vacuum column tape drives. Soon thereafter, we > > > had a > > > 360/20 with an MFCM. I will leave the multiple interpretations of > > > MFCM to those from that era. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else out there remember learning and using Autocoder and FARGO? > > > I will forego panel wiring for the time being as this was an > > > interesting programming method learned first. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > John T. Abell > > > > > > Tel: 800-295-7608 Option 4 > > > > > > President > > > > > > International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 > > > > > > E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com > > > > > > Fax: 800-295-7609 > > > > > > > > > > > > International: 1-416-593-5579 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International Software Products > > > > > > www.ispinfo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the > > > sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, > > > distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you > > > are not the intended > > > > > > recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), > > > please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this > > > message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, > > > > > > tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and > > > receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such > > > corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any > consequence thereof. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > > > On Behalf Of Mike Myers > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:08 PM > > > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > > > Subject: Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian". > > > > > > > > > > > > Warren: > > > > > > > > > > > > My God, you've been around even longer than me. I only joined IBM on Nov. > > > 9, 1964 and started programming school the day before OS/360 went GA. > > > How many other old f***s (friends) have we out here on this forum? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Myers > > > > > > Mentor Services Corporation > > > > > > (919) 341-5210 > > > > > > > > > > > > On 03/09/2017 07:39 PM, Warren Brown wrote: > > > > > > > I thought it was me . .joined IBM the same day as the 360 was > > > > > > > announced > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > On Thu, 3/9/17, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <l...@garlic.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian". > > > > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, March 9, 2017, 7:26 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > john.archie.mck...@gmail.com > > > > > > > (John McKown) writes: > > > > > > > > ​Same in other > > > > > > > books I've seen. Why? Probably because we write from top > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > bottom. We write the lowest first, > > > > > > > at the top, and the highest last, at the > > > > > > > > bottom. And then we confuse everybody by > > > > > > > calling them "ascending" memory > > > > > > > > addresses while writing them in a > > > > > > > descending pattern. English is a _stupid_ > > > > > > > > language. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the 70s as fullscreen 3270s editors were > > > > > > > starting to appear, there > > > > > > > was big editor > > > > > > > culture wars over up & down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prior to that, line-editing was from > > > > > > > perspective of the user ... "up" > > > > > > > moving towards the "top" (beginning) > > > > > > > of the file and "down" was moving > > > > > > > towards the "bottom" (end) of the > > > > > > > file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The side that had > > > > > > > enhanced previous line editors to support 3270 > > > > > > > fullscreen and preserved the up/down > > > > > > > orientation (meaning). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A > > > > > > > couple of "new" 3270 fullscreen editors, done from > > > > > > > scratch, insisted > > > > > > > on "up" was from > > > > > > > the orientation of the program (not the user), the > > > > > > > program would move the file up ... towards the > > > > > > > bottom of the file or > > > > > > > move the file > > > > > > > "down" ... towards the top of the file (difference > > > > > > > was` > > > > > > > whether up/down was from the human > > > > > > > perspective or the program/software > > > > > > > perspective). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > virtualization experience > > > > > > > starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive > > > > > > > access instructions, > > > > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu > > > > > > > with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > > > > > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > -- > > Scott Ford > > IDMWORKS > > z/OS Development > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
