I seem to recall that IBM had a way to zap the volume mask for spool so you did not have to cold start. So it might be worth a call to IBM to see if that is still available for your version of JES2.
Lizette > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:05 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Spool file > > Generally - > > You can walk the CKPT anytime with $TCKPTDEF,RECONFIG=YES > > It is long, but fairly safe. You can cancel the process at any time, and JES2 > will not impact much until you end it or allow it to proceed with the > reconfiguration. > > You only need to cold start jes2 if you want to change the name of the SPOOL > Volume. Otherwise you can init other volumes with the mask selected and allow > volumes to drain, and once drained, remove from the system. > > One of the suggestions in best practice for JES2 CKPT is to have CKPT1 in CF > Structure and CKPT2 on DASD. > > > > > Lizette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > > On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:36 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Spool file > > > > Sorry just got up that was it > > > > > > But I ran I to done other problems > > > > Can I move the checkpoint file to another pack As well > > > > Do t know why IBM set it up that way > > Putting the spool and check point file on the same pack as the > > parmlib's > > > > > > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:41 AM, Anthony Thompson > > > <anthony.thomp...@nt.gov.au> > > wrote: > > > > > > Of course, you know that implementing a change to the SPOOLDEF > > > VOLUME > > parameter requires a cold start of JES2? And, unless you're not > > interested in keeping any of the old spool data, a spool offload/reload. > > > > > > Ant. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > > Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > > > Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2017 8:53 AM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: Spool file > > > > > > My parmlib member points to SPOOL as the volume but everything else > > > shows > > B2SYS. > > > > > > SDSF SPOOL DISPLAY S0W1 2% ACT 14095 FRE 13683 LINE 1-2 (2) > > > > > > COMMAND INPUT ===> SCROLL ===> > > > CSR > > > NP NAME Status TGPct TGNum TGUse Command SAff Ext LoCyl LoTrk > > > > > > B2SYS1 ACTIVE 5 3000 164 ANY 00 0000031B > > > 000000000000 > > > B2SYS2 ACTIVE 2 11095 248 ANY 01 00000006 > > > 000000000000 > > > > > > 3.4 Display > > > DSLIST - Data Sets on volume SPOOL* Row 1 > of > > > 6 > > > Command ===> Scroll ===> > > > PAGE > > > > > > > > > Command - Enter "/" to select action Message > > > Volume > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------- > > > --- > > > SYS1.HASPACE > > > SPOOL1 > > > SYS1.HASPACE > > > SPOOL2 > > > SYS1.HASPACE > > > SPOOL3 > > > SYS1.VTOCIX.SPOOL1 > > > SPOOL1 > > > SYS1.VTOCIX.SPOOL2 > > > SPOOL2 > > > SYS1.VTOCIX.SPOOL3 > > > SPOOL3 > > > ***************************** End of Data Set list > > > **************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $dspool,long > > > $HASP893 VOLUME(B2SYS1) > > > VOLUME(B2SYS1) STATUS=ACTIVE,DSNAME=SYS1.HASPACE, > > > SYSAFF=(ANY),TGNUM=3000,TGINUSE=164, > > > TRKPERTGB=3,PERCENT=5,RESERVED=NO, > > > MAPTARGET=NO > > > $HASP893 VOLUME(B2SYS2) > > > VOLUME(B2SYS2) STATUS=ACTIVE,DSNAME=SYS1DisplKCELL=3,VOLUME=B2SYS > > > > > > $DSPOLLDEF > > > > > > JES parmlib member > > > > > > SPOOLDEF BUFSIZE=3856, /* MAXIMUM BUFFER SIZE &BUFSIZE c*/ > > > DSNAME=SYS1.HASPACE, > > > FENCE=NO, /* Don't Force to Min.Vol. &FENCE oc*/ > > > SPOOLNUM=32, /* Max. Num. Spool Vols --- c* > > > TGBPERVL=5, /* Track Groups per volume in BLOB ownc* > > > TGSIZE=33, /* 30 BUFFERS/TRACK GROUP &TGSIZE wnc*/ > > > TGSPACE=(MAX=26288, /* Fits TGMs into 4K Page &NUMTG=(, c*/ > > > WARN=80), /* &NUMTG=(,% onc*/ > > > TRKCELL=3, /* 3 Buffers/Track-cell &TCELSIZ c*/ > > > VOLUME=SPOOL /* SPOOL VOLUME SERIAL &SPOOL c*/ > > > <------- > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:23 AM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: Spool file > > > > > > Only one HASPACE per JES2 Spool volume > > > > > > Lizette > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > >> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:55 PM > > >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > >> Subject: Re: Spool file > > >> > > >> Issue a $DSPOOL,LONG and see what it shows > > >> > > >> Issue $DSPOOLDEF and see what it shows > > >> > > >> Next go to ISPF 3.4 > > >> > > >> Search > > >> > > >> ** in the dataset level > > >> SPOOL* in the VOLSER and see what it shows > > >> > > >> I am not clear about your statement: The spool volumes are still on the > > > same > > >> pack. Please provide a display of what you are seeing. > > >> > > >> > > >> Lizette > > >> > > >> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > >>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 PM > > >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > >>> Subject: Re: Spool file > > >>> > > >>> I have 3 vols SPOOL1 SPOOL2 and SPOOL3 > > >>> > > >>> In jes2 parmlib member on the spool def for volume I specify SPOOL > > >>> and yet after ipl'ing > > >>> > > >>> And then going back to SDSF to look for the spool volumes are on > > >>> still on the same pack > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Lizette Koehler > > >>>> <stars...@mindspring.com <mailto:stars...@mindspring.com> > > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> The best practice for JES2 Spool file is standalone. Never put > > >>>> anything on the same volume as either the SPOOL Space or the CKPT > > >> datasets. > > >>>> > > >>>> That can lead to unintentional issues. > > >>>> > > >>>> Many shops in the past have tended towards multi-use volumes with > > >>>> JES2. This is not recommended. > > >>>> > > >>>> With storage arrays, you can code a volume as a MOD9 (9GB, 10,017 > > >>>> Cylinders) and only place the ckpt or the spool space (not both) > > >>>> on it. The array will typically only hold the amount of storage > > >>>> on the > > >>>> mod9 as is allocated. It does not hold the entire 10,017 > > >>>> cylinders when you only have a 60 cylinder dataset on it. As the > > >>>> volume is grown - the array will allocate more space to that > > >>>> device until it reaches > > >>> its maximum size. > > >>>> > > >>>> So, in my shop we have the ckpt on MOD3s and the Spool space on > > >>>> MOD54s. The MOD3s only use a small portion for the ckpt as the > > >>>> ckpt is > > >>> under 1000 cylinders. > > >>>> The MOD54s are maxed out as I have allocated the entire amount to > > >>>> the Spool space. > > >>>> > > >>>> So even though there could be 3339 cylinders allocated for the > > >>>> MOD3, I am using barely 15% of that. So the volume is not very > > >>>> large even though it > > >>> could be. > > >>>> > > >>>> Or your shop could elect to create MOD1s - which is any size you > > >>>> wish to define > > >>>> - for your ckpt and spool space to be considered stand alone. > > >>>> > > >>>> When you start to mix files on volumes that should be dedicated - > > >>>> CA1 TMS, JES Spool or JES ckpt - you can enq that volume and > > >>>> cause issues to > > >>> those products. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Worst case scenario you might encounter is the need to cold start > > > jes2. > > >>>> > > >>>> Lizette > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > >>>>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:47 AM > > >>>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > >>>>> Subject: Spool file > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hi > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I'm having problems with my spool file > > >>>>> > > >>>>> SYS1.HASPACE > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> It happens to be in the same pack as my parmlib And other > > >>>>> important files > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I'm wondering can the spool file be on any pack ? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
