I was hoping you'd chime in John (and I appreciate the responses from Skip, 
Lizette and EdG, as well).  Since I am the person that does the maintenance and 
OS upgrades now, I was taking it upon myself to be a bit proactive (or creating 
busy work?) and looking at the EREP reports for potential problems where there 
may be PTFs available but maybe we just didn't have them on at the time due to 
our maintenance windows.  We are still in the process of fine tuning which 
reports to generate and we are unloading the reports to GDGs .

So I will summarize the advice as this:  Look at them, as you have time.  
Decide if any of them are a true problem or something worth investigating 
further, check out IBMLINK and/or look for a way to fix it. Open a PMR to 
IBM/vendor if really unsure.

But I still can't get my head around, why cut 100's of symptom/software records 
a day at all for a particular problem, if we're just going to ignore them - 
abend or not. But I'll try to let that not keep me awake at night.   

Thanks everyone.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf 
Of John Eells
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:10 AM
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Subject: Re: EREP Symptom and/or Software Records

Turner Cheryl L wrote:
> Greetings.
> Our former sysprog, who paid attention to the more finer system details, has 
> left the building for greener pastures.  So now we seem to have to step up 
> our game.  However, I'm not sure what to do or how.
>
> We are running several EREP reports to see what software or symptom records 
> are being cut per LPAR (mostly just HISTORY reports for now).  We are finding 
> that a lot of records are being cut at the time an IBM supplied SLIP trap is 
> taken (for example X13E, X47B, X91A).  Some of these records can exceed 
> hundreds on a given day.
>
> What should we/I be doing? Reporting them to IBM? I just don't understand why 
> IBM would set the SLIP yet cut a symptom or software record too.  We can't be 
> the only shop seeing these. Yet I've tried to research a few on IBMLINK but 
> can't find any hits for known problems.  Or maybe there is a way to turn of 
> the creation of the software/symptom record?  Though I can't wrap my head 
> around that either, thinking why are they then being cut at all if it's not 
> anything to look into?
>
> Any schooling you can give, would be most appreciated! But please, be gentle. 
> I'm out of my element. Many thanks to you all.

If you care to research these, look up the abends and see whether you really 
care.  Using 13E as an example:

Explanation: The task that created a subtask issued a DETACH macro for that 
subtask, specifying STAE=NO, before the subtask ended.
This may or may not be an error, depending on the intent of the user. 
Consequently, the system does not abnormally end the task issuing the DETACH 
macro.

With no proof to back my assumptions, I nonetheless suspect that, if you look 
at these, you will find that most or all of those are from application programs 
that summarily shot their subtasks rather than signaling them to complete or 
waiting for them to complete.

You can discuss such things with the application owner, but you might find most 
of them reluctant to "fix" the problem when what they are doing is working from 
their perspective and the net ill effect is "noise" in EREP reports.

I will observe, though, that the system programmer action for ABEND13E could 
use some updates...

--
John Eells
IBM Poughkeepsie
ee...@us.ibm.com

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