I should have added that our DEV and PROD versions of PARMLIB/PROCLIB are not 
directly updateable, however we are a TSS shop, so we have our "special" ID's 
that operate in bypass mode, but everything done with it is logged, and every 
use has to be manually followed up with the "what's, and why's".  I don’t mind 
this level of control, as it makes you think about what you are doing....

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Yea, I'm not a fan of that either, especially when things are going south, and 
a PARMLIB change needs to be made quickly.   I do like the idea of automatic 
change tracking like Ira mentioned with various software vendors that do that.  
 When they provide before/after images of the members in the libraries of 
interest, it is helpful for change/audit management, but also when someone fat 
fingers something by accident...

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I have heard of some shops that had SYS1.PARMLIB under LIBRARIAN or PANVALET 
control.

I (fortunately) have never had to work in any of them.
HTH,

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I'm coming under pressure from 'upstairs' regarding the idea of implementing 
change control or versioning on parmlib members and other 'control'-type files 
(WLM policy, SMS rules, RACF, etc)

Currently, I manually maintain 'change history' comments in each member, and a 
previous version 'backout' member, but that is a highly manual task, subject to 
a high level of self-discipline (and on occasion I have either bypassed or 
screwed up that procedure.

I've looked at the idea of using SCLM for this, but it all seems like using a 
sledgehammer to crack a hazelnut. Git has also been suggested, and I'm still 
looking at that.

Does anyone else do anything like this, and if so, would you be prepared to 
share your experiences, please?

Sean Gleann

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