I'm the Top-Secret admin for a client whose system programmer retired a couple 
years ago.  The client tapped another employee to take his place, and she's 
learning the job with frantic haste but insists with some justification that 
she's not a system programmer yet.  Me, I came into security through the 
applications-development side so I'm not even close.

Together she and I are trying to learn SMP/E.  The immediate purpose is so we 
can apply some TSS-related PTFs, but really, it's become clear to me that we 
need no excuses to make it a priority; SMP/E is kind of important.

I have embarked on a serious reading of the SMP/E User's Guide, but I still 
need help.  I'll limit myself to a handful of questions to start with:

Question #1) We started by applying a PTF - call it A for simplicity - and its 
prerequisite B.  We did that last August and then the project languished for 
the sake of other priorities.  Now we're working on it again and we want to 
restore those two PTFs and do the APPLY again.  Why?  Well, partly because it 
was 'way back in August and we're uncertain about exactly how we did it back 
then.  We know more now.  Partly because we know more now and we want to 
practice it better.  I dunno, partly because we just want to.  I think maybe we 
bypassed some HOLDs back then too.

Anyway, we attempted the RESTORE, but we got lots and lots of error messages 
saying we need to include other PTFs in the RESTORE.  Some of these have an 
indirect connection to A and B; B superceded at least three of them, for 
example, which I can see were applied some years ago.  Others have no relation 
to our PTFs that I can discern.  I haven't yet found the place in the User's 
Guide that explains these relationship and their relevance.  Can someone give a 
helpful explanation?

Question #2) So far as we can tell by issuing LIST XREF commands, whoever ran 
this thing in the past never did any ACCEPT, ever, except for the original 
function code.  I see at least 11 PTFs that were applied (including our two), 
but the distribution library shows no PTFs for any module I've yet LISTed.  If 
true, does that mean that to do a RESTORE of our two PTFs we'll have to RESTORE 
everything back to the plain-vanilla base?

Question #3) My partner the not-sysprog has in mind that maybe we need to set 
aside this CSI (which is dedicated to Top Secret) and create another one 
starting with the base software and build up from there.  I didn't realize this 
could be done, but she thinks she can do it.  If it'll work, I like it; we'll 
know in that case what we have, which we do not at present.  Anyone have any 
thoughts on this plan?

Question #4) This is a less-important add-on:  In both the online documentation 
and the User's Guide, I read if I'm doing a RESTORE and name PTFs A and B, 
including the GROUP operand causes SMP/E to add whatever other PTFs are 
required for various reasons.  It doesn't seem to, though; it names them and 
complains about them, but doesn't add them to the list.  Have I misunderstood 
something?  I'm loathe to believe the documentation is flat wrong.

If you're getting ready to send rushed messages saying "DON'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL 
YOU'VE CHECKED...", relax; we're planning to go slow.

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Bob Bridges, cell 336 382-7313
  robhbrid...@gmail.com
  rbrid...@infosecinc.com

/* Anyone can do any amount of work, provided it isn't the work he is supposed 
be doing at that moment.  -Robert Benchley */

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