And please don't tell me you'd want Db2, IMS, CICS, MQ, Websphere 
Application Server to have been 32-bit.

Many other things want scalability beyond 4GB (minus "common").

Plus, how would you map Shared or Common/System 64-Bit objects into such 
an address space?

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From:   Joe Monk <joemon...@gmail.com>
To:     IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   04/04/2019 13:40
Subject:        Re: AMODE 32
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>



" I don't agree that all new applications should
be 64 bit. That is overkill. 32-bit/4 GiB should
be enough for almost all commercial applications."

"According to the analyst deck
<https://www.ibm.com/investor/att/pdf/IBM-2Q18-Earnings-Charts.pdf> 
circulated
with the latest set of quarterly financials, the IBM Z mainframe business,
listed under its ‘systems segment’ has doubled year-on-year, pulling in a
tidy US$2.2 billion ($2.96 billion)

Overall revenue rose nearly 4 percent to US$20 billion ($26.9 billion),
beating analysts’ average estimate of $19.85 billion ($26.7 billion),
according to Thomson Reuters I/B/E/S."

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.itnews.com.au_news_mainframe-2Dsales-2Ddouble-2Din-2Dlatest-2Dibm-2Dprofit-2D498679&d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ&m=pgxF-yzofWwOBNCorbSZ62a_LiKMJSrCnFacr93Bx6A&s=HG7JrzodsErEBgjKrvClvXYYI0qF0c1f_5S4P8wCIko&e=


Joe

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 7:20 AM Paul Edwards <mutazi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 13:55:30 +0300, Binyamin Dissen <
> bdis...@dissensoftware.com> wrote:
>
> >What problem would this solve?
>
> It would set the long-term model for the
> mainframe, instead of being stuck with
> 24/31-bit software for eternity.
>
> >This would be of zero use for existing applications,
>
> I don't agree. Existing applications can be
> modified to be 32-bit clean and have maximum
> possible address space as per 32-bit.
>
> > and new applications should simply use 64 bit.
>
> I don't agree that all new applications should
> be 64 bit. That is overkill. 32-bit/4 GiB should
> be enough for almost all commercial applications.
>
> BFN. Paul.
>
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