That is a one-time thing. If you need to do it often, then perhaps you
need to change your ways. We have a running system that already has
passwords that differ from the install defaults. Those are the ids used
in production. The only place that the defaults are used is on a 2nd
level system used for installation (not maintenance - we do that on the
1st level system) of new releases, and that system is never promoted to
run in production.

If we want to use the 2nd-level system for something after the initial
installation, it is a simple matter of Rexx and Pipelines to change the
passwords. It is not that onerous a chore. If that is the only reason
for changing the system, I would say that it is not worth the
development effort and cost.

One question, who needs the proposed changes? Anyone who wants or needs
to can already divide their userids into the stated categories. There is
no real reason to assume that one size fits all, that all shops must
change to fit that particular model.


Regards, 
Richard Schuh 


-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rich Smrcina
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:57 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Initial User Directory

No argument here.  One of the most disliked chores of installing a new 
z/VM is changing all of the default passwords.

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