Sysoper is on "dummy" and does not need an svm.All is OK now after switching he 
console to a different device; the original was on a bad controller.Thanks 
all.Suleiman Shahin

> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:43:36 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 
> Shutdown wont complete.. What next..> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> > The 
> SYSOPER (and other users listed in EMERGENCY_CONSOLES in SYSTEM> CONFIG) will 
> get shutdown progress messages, **but** only if they are> logged on on a 
> terminal that doesn't need an SVM to drive them.  So a> TELNET or VTAM 
> terminal will be dead right after SHUTDOWN started.> A sure place is indeed 
> "Operating System Messages" on the HMC console> where they always appear.> > 
> 2008/8/18 Raymond Noal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> > Suleiman,> >> > More than 
> likely who ever did the SHUTDOWN did this from a user-ID who was not the 
> SYSOPER ID. The user who is the SYSOPER receives the shutdown processing 
> messages.> >> > You are most likely safe in just doing your regular IPL for 
> z/VM.> >> > You may be able to see the shutdown messages on the MESSAGES 
> frame on the HMC.> >> > ________________________________> >> > From: The IBM 
> z/VM Operating System on behalf of Suleiman Shahin> > Sent: Sun 8/17/2008 
> 8:08 PM> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> > Subject: Shutdown wont complete.. 
> What next..> >> >> > Greetings Listers,> >> > The operator her did Shutdown 
> reipl 90 minutes ago and the last message was SYSTEM SHUTDOWN STARTED..> >> > 
> What can be done to bring system back up.> >> > zVM 5.3 on 2096.> >> > 
> Thanks.> >> > Suleiman Shahin> >> >> >> >> >> > 
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