Wrong discussion: LPAR is always there on modern machines.  The choice thus is
   LPAR only + z/OS guests     or
   LPAR + z/VM  + z/OS guests
As far as CPU is concerned, z/VM would add a second virtualization
layer between z/OS and the real HW.

2008/8/28 Edward M. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Peter,
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> Your comment
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> Do you need every last CPU cycle for your production z/OS? LPAR is better
> here.
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> I was told my some hardware and software people that the LPAR uses the same
> amount of horsepower as would z/VM running the
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> Same machines.  But the LPAR code just hides that usage.
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> For a given CPU/engines and set number of LPARs compared to the same
> configuration but z/VM, the through put was the same.
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> Could someone comment on this, please?
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> Ed Martin
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> Aultman Health Foundation
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> 330-588-4723
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> ext 40441
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> ________________________________
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> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Ward, Mike S
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:08 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Lpar Vs VM
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> Thanks for the reply. Yours seems to be the best so far. I wanted to try and
> figure the cost of setting up multiple z/OS machines in a fairly quick
> manner.
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> As I remember the old VM/BSEPP you could run as many operating systems as
> you wanted under VM and be charged for only 1 copy of the operating system.
> That doesn't seem to be the case using LPAR's . It seems that we get billed
> for running z/os on Lpar 1 and Lpar 2. They gather the amount from the SMF
> records that are produced. That's why I was wondering if I would get billed
> for multiple z/os virtual machines under z/VM.
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>



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IBM Belgium, VM customer support

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