Thanks for the reply. Yours seems to be the best so far. I wanted to try and 
figure the cost of setting up multiple z/OS machines in a fairly quick manner. 

 

As I remember the old VM/BSEPP you could run as many operating systems as you 
wanted under VM and be charged for only 1 copy of the operating system. That 
doesn’t seem to be the case using LPAR’s . It seems that we get billed for 
running z/os on Lpar 1 and Lpar 2. They gather the amount from the SMF records 
that are produced. That’s why I was wondering if I would get billed for 
multiple z/os virtual machines under z/VM.

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:49 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Lpar Vs VM

 

I can’t speak to z/OS software charges, but for VSE, we pay for only one 
license for multiple instances running under z/VM. And we pay the VSE license 
for the total capacity of the machine. 

 

I don’t think you can say that VM is better than LPAR as a general statement. 
In some cases VM definitely is better, and in others, LPAR is the winner. 

 

Do you need to create new z/OS instances on short notice for a brief testing 
period? z/VM is a clear winner.

 

Do you need every last CPU cycle for your production z/OS? LPAR is better here.

 

Do you need to frequently shift resources around between your LPARs? z/VM might 
make your life easier.

 

Is your hardware environment fairly static? Could be better to stay with LPARs.

 

Are you thinking of running Linux on your mainframe? You will almost certainly 
want to run z/VM then.  

 

z/VM brings you unmatched flexibility, but at a cost of some CPU cycles and 
money. If you have large numbers of LPARs though, it can reduce the complexity 
of your configuration, and allow better sharing of your resources.

 

Perhaps if you expand on what you hope to achieve, we can provide more targeted 
responses.

 

Peter 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Ward, Mike S
Sent: August 27, 2008 11:31
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Lpar Vs VM

 

Hello all, I have a question. When we set up and lpar with an operating 
environment such as MVS, we get software charges for both lpars from IBM. Third 
party vendors don’t seem to care if it’s on the same machine (Most don’t) since 
they charge for the full mip rate of the machine regardless of whether it’s 
utilized or not. Long ago, about 30 years I had a VM shop and we ran multiple 
instances of OS/VS1, MVS, etc, but were only charged for on license of software 
product. Is this still the case? Is it better to use VM instead of LPAR? All 
comments appreciated.

 

 

Thanks.

 


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