I'm not sure I would rely on telnet -- the operator's should have a 'real'
console to be able to shutdown/IPL in case of a network or TCPIP failure..

Scott Rohling

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good questions Steve. At this point we are not sure what role operations
> will play. I guess they need to be able to shut down just in case and to
> IPL. We don't have any experience and are just trying to think ahead. I'm
> sure it will change 2 weeks after the Linux guest are in use.
>
> Sounds like a PC with a telnet session to either OPERATOR or some other ID
> is the way to go. At least for the pilot we don't plan on using PROP as has
> been suggested.
>
> Bobby Bauer
> Center for Information Technology
> National Institutes of Health
> Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
> 301-594-7474
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gentry, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:33 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: VM operator console?
>
> I would recommend not using the HMC as an operator console. There is a
> VM userid called OPERATOR, which is usually logged on when VM IPL's.
> What are you wanting your operators to do? I would not use OPERATOR as a
> console, per say. I would set up a separate userid for the operators.
> I'd leave OPERATOR in a disconnect mode. I guess the question is, what
> do you want the operators to do on VM? Or what do you think they need to
> be doing?
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:20 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: VM operator console?
>
> We are an MVS shop setting up a Linux under VM pilot and need to have
> some procedures in place for operations. We are trying to figure out
> how/where we want the operators to have console access. Right now only
> the sys. progs. have any access to VM and we use a telnet session from
> our desks to a VM user id or use the HMC. Is there a master console we
> can setup for operations like MVS? Should we setup a userid for the
> operators? Make them use the HMC?
> Is there another alternative I've not mentioned and don't know about?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bobby Bauer
> Center for Information Technology
> National Institutes of Health
> Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
> 301-594-7474
>

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