>>>> I guess it's all in your perspective but I see this horse as a very 
>>>> sweet and willing horse that has a problem that's not being addressed. 
>>>> The first thing I would do is take off that dropped noseband and loosen 
>>>> the rein - don't make the horse feel trapped. Secondly, I'd check 
>>>> saddle fit. Third I'd  go to my ring at home or wherever you train and 
>>>> back to basics on a calm slow halt - there have been some missed steps 
>>>> in basic training.  There is no good reason that the habits that horse 
>>>> has gotten into can't be fixed.  I've seen numerous copies of that 
>>>> horse with kids aboard at lots of dressage shows I've been to - it 
>>>> almost always boils down to nerves of the rider and one or more of the 
>>>> issues above. ... I don't see that horse being similar to Stonewall


I'm 100% with Laree on this one.  If you want to compare this horse to one 
of yours Janice, I see more of the "before" version of Teev than 
Walls...although hopefully that side of Tivar is (at least mostly) retired 
now.  (Gotta love that Gastrogard ... and a trainer with patience and 
empathy.)


Karen Thomas, NC


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