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> From: ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org [mailto:ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org] 
> On Behalf Of John R. Levine
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:11 PM
> To: Brett McDowell
> Cc: DKIM List
> Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] the danger of ADSP, was list vs contributor
> 
> The basic problem with ADSP is that we shipped an untested prototype,
> and
> at this point the only way to test it is to try experiments and hope
> they
> don't do too much damage before we have a chance to tweak and mitigate
> the
> problems.  I appreciate that Paypal's intentions are entirely virtuous,
> and that you deal with problems pretty quickly for a large
> organization.

If we all agree that that's a valid characterization of ADSP, I suggest we move 
to get it downgraded from Proposed Standard to Experimental.  There's certainly 
a lot of rhetoric suggesting it's an experiment that's in the process of 
failing, though the experiment is also arguably not complete.

At any rate, I'm happy to participate in an effort to specify something that 
actually stands a chance of working, and test it in widely available software.

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