On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 12:43, Raj Shekhar wrote:

> > i visited the cauce india site. couldn't figure out what is a PIL though
> > i read thru their pages.
> 
> PIL == Public interest ligitation. I am not sure how to go about doing
> this, I will have to do some research how exactly it works in our
> country. But if my limited knowledge serves me well, you do not have to
> be a lawyer to file a PIL in the court. Any citizen concerned about
> something can file a PIL in the high court.
> 

okay, dokey, here's some stuff i've dug out for you:

lawyer who can help:
Lawrence Liang
Alternative Law Forum
in bangalore.
email: alforum / at / vsnl dot net

gimme a day or two, i'll try to dig up the contact details of the other
guy, who is a member of a consumer action group in delhi.


> >> I am willing to 
> >>contribute money for this PIL. We can contact CAUCE with this idea. 
> >>However a PIL would require that people are aware of this nuisance and 
> >>that spamming is unlawful in other countries.
> > 

> 
> Since CAUCE seems to have an idea what spam is, we can ask them to file
> a PIL. They would be able to brief the lawyers better.

i think that's a good idea. earlier, i had seen some contact cgi-form on
their site.

> 
> > if you haven't noted, the mainstream newspapers and magazines these days
> > are full of spam, cover-to-cover from the political parties and
> > politicians out to get your vote.
> > ;-)
> 
> OK, you must be referring to the Slimes of India :). That is not a
> mainstream newspaper, its a pop paper now, pandering to page 3 type
> people. Just my NSHO :)

more seriously, news is commodity and its actual media is optional: sms,
tv, radio, google-news, to print newspaper. so no surprise newspapers
are trying to redefine their role. we live in the world of concurrent
media, as no one medium cancels out any other.


> 
> > i could ask niyam to rant in some of his columns or talks. that
> > megalomaniac is always looking for something to rant about. [grin]
> 
> I second that idea. But I am not sure how mainstream LFY is.

but niyam will figure out a way of taking this mainstream. he could also
do a typical job of also yacking about it in his larger-scale seminars,
college/university talks, and starting some grass-roots movement.
> 
> > 
> > i request people here to email NGOs like Centre for Science Environment,
> > the guys who publish down to earth magazine. 
> 
> Can you post URL of these organizations ? I will contact them. This
> weekend I will make a email explaining about spam and using that as a
> template contact these organizations. Let us hope for a positive response.

yes, dug out their url too.http://www.cseindia.org/
you'll find contact details, and further that of downtoearth on their
site.


you know, apart from these methods, we are not looking at how to use
technology to stop this. any ideas? how could we fortify existing tools
or make them even more lethal for battling such spam, such that it
disables the perpetrators. or, can we think of a bold new idea?

i like vipul's cloudmark idea.


LL


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