PJ wrote: > Kenneth Gonsalves writes: > >> name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky >> and talented developers because we have already established that bsd >> +luck+talent != danger) > > > 2. Use your clairvoyance to figure out which project is going to be unlucky > and > which is going to be unable to keep talent interested in sustaining > development > if the software is usurped. > > They're the projects at risk of losing dominance to MS, which can usurp the > code > and throw lots of people to Embrace->Extend->Extinguish the original.
I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too many people throw the "BSD networking stack" as an example whenever this discussion comes up, but are at a loss when asked for examples beyond that. When you were asked about Apache and Mozilla projects, instead of admitting exceptions to this theory, you turned to "luck" as an abstract non-verifiable factor. How about some concrete examples of the "failure" of BSD licenses? BTW, there are a lot of Apache foundation projects apart from the web server. There is a huge java set of libraries on which a significant part of the Java development in the world is based. Oh yes, there is openssl too, in case, you have forgotten. Both GPL and BSD style licences more or less were introduced around the same time - 1989. [1] [2] If BSD style licences are doomed to failure, how come this licence, even though not as popular as GPL (actually I believe its lack of popularity is partly because of FUD by GPL evangelists), is thriving 18 years later? The whole purpose behind the Apache Java projects is to provide a free set of libraries for the developer community regardless of which camp they are from - open source or closed source. So what you are saying is that all these developers are completely out of their mind and are wasting their precious hours of life working "for others financial benefit"? For a change, get out for a minute from shade of GPL (over?)evangelism and appreciate other movements who have a different approach to the same ultimate aim for both the BSD and GPL licences - a world where software is [fF]ree. Even if you don't agree to their approach, atleast admit that they have a different POV to the solution. Don't vilify them. They are on your side. - Sandip [1] http://www.crackmonkey.org/~nick/mail/bsd-license-history-in-a-nutsac [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Public_Licence#Version_1 _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
